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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2004, 07:58:29 AM »
apparently, reading comprehension > you

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gaming today is shit


i just prefer the PC side cause consoles cant do 1600x1200 8x FSAA 16x AF at 60 fps.  oh, and the mouse/keyboard thing is kinda nifty
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2004, 08:03:55 AM »
1)Exact quote from another thread :
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i blame you, and gamers like you for the state that console gaming has become


2)Either way if you cared enough about gaming PC wouldnt have been your first choice of gaming

understanding his own words>mm
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2004, 08:04:52 AM »
we were talking about console gaming in that thread.

bro, you\'re killing me
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2004, 08:05:26 AM »
Yet you won\'t tell us why.
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Make your arguement...

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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2004, 08:06:41 AM »
This thread is a result from THAT statement

and I shall repeat NO.2

2)Either way if you cared enough about gaming PC wouldnt have been your first choice of gaming

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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2004, 09:24:08 AM »
tell you why?

that thread was about console gaming

again, you guys attempt to troll me into a pc vs console argument when when the discussion is about the decline of popular gaming


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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2004, 09:28:50 AM »
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tell you why?

that thread was about console gaming

again, you guys attempt to troll me into a pc vs console argument when when the discussion is about the decline of popular gaming


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lol, I haven\'t tried to corner you with a pc vs. console debate.  I\'ll let Unicron! have that one.

I\'m asking that you simply back up your claim of the "decline of popluar gaming" and that "gaming today is shit" as you put it.

Saying it over and over isn\'t working.

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2004, 09:33:22 AM »
cause you refuse to see it (or just trying to taunt me, which is what i would do in your place)

it\'s rediculous to say gaming as a whole hasn\'t declined.  how many damn sequels do you need to shove down before it becomes clear?
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2004, 09:33:43 AM »
And he is talking about console gaming as well
And no we arent trying to turn it into a PC vs Console arguement.But you seem to show off how much of a true gamer you are.A true gamer skrew\'s graphics and plays lots and lots and lots of console games as well never showing that attitude of yours
That alone takes you the right to act like one

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amen



this is exactly  the problem
piracy?  wtf, is this 1980?

you think piracy hurt kabuki warrior sales?  or britney dance beat (or whatever it was called)?  [yes, i know worse case scenarios, stfu already]

yeah, piracy really puts a hurt on console gaming methodology
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if is wasn\'t for piracy yo, fable would be selling mad copies cause they could like delay it for another 4 years


I didnt see that reply earlier but I ll tell you know why they are more expensive.
1)Console game prices have bigger consumer tax prices than PC games.Without taxes they are around $20-25
2)Consoles are sold in loss.Revenues are gained through games sales.And we are talking about revenues for the console company and the developers.In PC titles the price includes only the profit the developers need and nobody has to worry about hardware loss on sales
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2004, 09:39:05 AM »
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cause you refuse to see it


How can I refuse to see a point you haven\'t made?

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(or just trying to taunt me, which is what i would do in your place)


I tried to make that glaringly obvious, next time I\'ll just come right out and say it.  I\'m backing you in to a corner and seeing if you can get out.

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it\'s rediculous to say gaming as a whole hasn\'t declined.  how many damn sequels do you need to shove down before it becomes clear?


elaborate on that thought, please.

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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2004, 09:42:04 AM »
Gaming "declined" not because of bad gamers.Thats because as someone else said (I think it was Soully) game development is more expensive and it takes more risks to develop something completely new or introduce a new idea.Its cause of the evolution of gaming.Not thanks to bad gamers

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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2004, 10:44:21 AM »
I\'m sorry, but gaming is not on a decline just like Hollywood isn\'t on a decline.  People who say so are just grumpier they\'re not 7 years old anymore and movies like Sky Captain roll off their chests as pure crap and games with the simplicity of Mario Bros just doesn\'t appeal to their meticulous ideas of flights of fancy.  If anything else, the gamers of yesteryear, that being me and a handful of other people on this board, just have played so many games that everything has that been-there-done-that feeling and instead of apraising the games for their differences and their uniqueness, plenty of people are just concentrating on their similarities and hating how the changes have somehow killed their childhood favorites.

The absolute PERFECT example of this are those who love Final Fantasy VI but can\'t stand Final Fantasy VII.  Both games are so incredibly similar and instead of applauding each for its differences, many of those who loved FFVI years before absolutely hate FFVII for being too similar.  The hate in that sense is so widespread that it\'s just absolutely staggering.  You can\'t enter a message board without encountering at least one of these people and that\'s just a fact of life.  What they say is their reason is just that, but the truth is that they are unwilling to untie themselves from so many cliches and gaming standards that any deviation from such a course is absolutely unacceptable.

Look at you mm, just how many things have changed about you when it comes to playing games?  You still play the same platform and consider it your favorite, for years and years.  What\'s changed?  Nothing.  Keyboard and mouse.  That\'s what it is for you.  That\'s great.  You\'re unwilling to appreciate or welcome change.  That\'s your perogative, but what happens when those graphical effects you so cherish become moot?  What happens when a console actually behaves moreso like a PC then an actual console?  You shun the console for its changes.  We\'ve seen this countless times in multiple threads from you.  Harddrives are a mistake you say, patches are a mistake you say, and yet the systems without either you still don\'t approve of.  There\'s no good middile ground.

I don\'t know whether I should be happy or sad for you for sticking by a platform years old and refusing to accept the new or the different.  I guess that\'s not for me to decide really as I don\'t care either way.  It\'s just humorous to me how people can blame gaming for changing when in fact, it\'s not the games that have changed, it\'s the people who have played games who have changed.

There was a quote for a review of a rather ingenius film called The Princess Bride and the quote went something like this--

"My only dissapointment is that I only get one chance to watch this film for the first time."

I think that just about sums it up for those who think the games have changed rather then the players.
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« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2004, 12:15:14 PM »
wow.Couldnt have been said better

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« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2004, 01:46:51 PM »
corner?

it\'s my room, bro

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What\'s changed? Nothing.


everything has changed
as a society, we\'re lazy
we\'re programmed to pay for and expect less.  this cannot be denied


oh, and princess bride is great everytime i see it.

and how can u compare movies to video games?

of course you couldnt have said it uni, you just make absurd comparisons and pull out random quotes to make a moot point
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« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2004, 02:17:20 PM »
Yeah I make absurd comparisons.Probably just as Ryu did (he brought the best examples) :rolleyes:

And you never seem to grasp the point of the subject and the things you are being told

Its you who seem to see videogames and movies the same way.You express the same opinions about movies and music as well.

edit:Oh and he wasnt comparing the two of them
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