Missing Weapons - The UN\'s attempt to influence US election

Granted, when I first read the missing weapons report I was dismayed that we had let 370 + tons of explosives disappear and/or apparently left them unguarded.

I also thought this couldn\'t have come at a worse time for the Bush administration being a week from elections, but low and behold - the UN it seems, is attempting to influence the US election.  Is the timing of the release of this "report" a coincidence?  I doubt anyone could argue that the people in the upper echelons of the UN hate the Bush administration.  I mean - he didn\'t listen to them about Iraq and now the US government is investigating the oil for food scandal.

Anyway, it seems those explosives were already missing prior to the arrival of the US military in the area.

NBCNEWS: CACHE OF EXPLOSIVES VANISHED FROM SITE IN IRAQ BEFORE TROOPS ARRIVED...

The NYTIMES urgently reported on Monday in an apprent October Surprise: The Iraqi interim government and the U.N. nuclear agency have warned the United States that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives are now missing from one of Iraq\'s most sensitive former military installations.

[The source behind the NYT story first went to CBSNEWS\' 60 MINUTES last Wednesday, but the beleaguered network wasn\'t able to get the piece on the air as fast as the newspaper could print. Executive producer Jeff Fager hoped to break the story during a high-impact election eve broadcast of 60 MINS on October 31.]

Jumping on the TIMES exclusive, Dem presidential candidate John Kerry blasted the Bush administration for its failure to "guard those stockpiles."

"This is one of the great blunders of Iraq, one of the great blunders of this administration," Kerry said.

In an election week rush:

**ABCNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 4 Times
**CBSNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 7 Times
**MSNBC Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 37 Times
**CNN Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 50 Times

But tonight, NBCNEWS reported: The 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives were already missing back in April 10, 2003 -- when U.S. troops arrived at the installation south of Baghdad!

An NBCNEWS crew embedded with troops moved in to secure the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility on April 10, 2003, one day after the liberation of Iraq.

According to NBCNEWS, the HMX and RDX explosives were already missing when the American troops arrived.

"The U.S. Army was at the site one day after the liberation and the weapons were already gone," a top Republican blasted from Washington late Monday.

The International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors last saw the explosives in January 2003 when they took an inventory and placed fresh seals on the bunkers.

Dem vp hopeful John Edwards blasted Bush for not securing the explosives: "It is reckless and irresponsible to fail to protect and safeguard one of the largest weapons sites in the country. And by either ignoring these mistakes or being clueless about them, George Bush has failed. He has failed as our commander in chief; he has failed as president."

A senior Bush official e-mailed DRUDGE late Monday: "Let me get this straight, are Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards now saying we did not go into Iraq soon enough? We should have invaded and liberated Iraq sooner?"

Top Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart fired back Monday night: "In a shameless attempt to cover up its failure to secure 380 tons of highly explosive material in Iraq, the White House is desperately flailing in an effort to escape blame. Instead of distorting John Kerry’s words, the Bush campaign is now falsely and deliberately twisting the reports of journalists. It is the latest pathetic excuse from an administration that never admits a mistake, no matter how disastrous."

Why is the U.N. nuclear agency suddenly warning now that insurgents in Iraq may have obtained nearly 400 tons of missing explosives -- in early 2003?

NBCNEWS Jim Miklaszewski quoted one official: "Recent disagreements between the administration and the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency makes this announcement appear highly political."

Developing...

http://www.drudgereport.com/nbcw.htm

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i think people\'s mind were and is already made up before this even came out...i mean if you\'re gonna base your vote on this issue alone you shouldn\'t be voting in the first place...

certain people in the world feel a certain way about bush..it\'s no secret that  most in the international world want him out of the white house, and don\'t agree with his foreign policy,..whether this stunt was political or not, bottomline is that both parties are gulity of using shady tactics against one another...

I didn\'t say this was the Democrats who cooked the story up.  This was the UN and foreign interests who are trying to influence our election.  Take the Guardian urging its readers to write voters in Ohio to urge them vote Bush out of office.  If I received a letter from some foreigner telling me how to vote I would wipe my ass with it and send it back.

Personally, I think the US should be very wary of the UN in general as it doesn\'t live up to the grand ideas on which it was founded.

The original notification regarding the missing explosives came from Mohammed Abbas, "director of planning" in our own puppet Iraqi government.  He claimed the explosives went missing or were looted AFTER Saddam\'s government fell, and while we were supposed to be guarding such stockpiles.  Link

Now we have ONE report from NBC stating that the explosives were already missing when their embedded reporter visited the site with the first US troops to arrive there.  NBC also said "It remains unclear, however, how extensively the U.S. forces searched the site in the immediate aftermath of the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein."  Link

In my opinion, those who are quick to report and believe stories like these are making an error equal to those who are too hasty in disbelieving them on the first contrary evidence.  I say reserve your judgement and wait for the full story to come in.

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if that is in fact true then any foreign entity needs to strickly stay out of our domestic affairs..but i guess these countries in the u.n. feel that that the u.s. ultimately has the last word on any issue, and with bush at the helm, i\'m assuming they figure they have no chance at negotiations at all on any international issue..

that said it just further reinforces what i stated earlier that the u.s. has practically zero support in the world because of this war in iraq...there is no coalition of the willing...and whether the u.s, wants to realize or not..it needs china, france, germ & russia on certain  issues in the int\'l community..

oh yea..these countries(china france ,germ, russia) say that whatever words was said between the u.s. & them are water under the bridge...but i think bush burned some bridges when he scorned them...i know deep down inside they are laughing at the u.s. in watching how they are struggling to get iraq under control...

Kissing France\'s ass is definitely not the answer.  I think deep down countries like France are worrying about what further evidence we are going to uncover regarding their corruption in the UN with regards to Iraq.  Then again, Chirac is immune from prosecution under French law, but his subordinates aren\'t.

As for Core\'s statement, why is the media worried over 370 tons, yet fails to mention the 400,000 tons we have already secured?  CBS was planning to run this story on the eve of the election in an obvious attempt to hurt the President.  One would think they learned their lesson with memogate.  This story was reported over a year ago!!

 

News of missing explosives in Iraq -- first reported in April 2003

 

Anyway, Iraq is like the Walmart of conventional weapons and rounding up every last weapon is not realisitic - regardless of how well one plans.  Even if the 101st "missed" finding these explosives, is that the Presidents fault?  I really can\'t believe John Kerry is still going on about this today.  You would think for such an "intelligent" man he would think as you do Core.

Yeah we were talking about this before. Funny how NOW its a plot by the UN/dems. I have respect for you man, and perhaps youre right (im not ruling that out), but why now?

We\'re all somewhat biased, but this is kinda funny.

The NY Times, the IAEA/UN, CBS and the Kerry campaign.  They are all publicizing the hell out this weak story.  Kerry even made a 30 second TV spot for it today!  These explosives could have been transported somewhere before the war or destroyed when the US bombed the bunkers.

Lt. Gen. William Boykin, the Pentagon\'s deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence, said that on May 27, 2003, a U.S. military team specifically looking for weapons went to the site but did not find anything with IAEA stickers on it.

There is almost no way 380 tons of explosives could have been transported between April and May without the US Army noticing.  There were log jams of US convoys on every road and unmanned predator drones flying all over the place.  The insurgency hadn\'t even started yet and it would have taken quite a bit of heavy equipment to move those explosives that quickly.

The reason they did it now?  A 12th hour surprise to damage the Bush campaign.  None of the organizations I listed above wants Bush to win - CBS had plans to run this story on the eve of the election so Bush wouldn\'t have a chance to respond to it - just like they did in 2000 with his DUI charge.  This is blatant media bias in regards to the Times and CBS who instead of doing honest reporting are trying to influence an election with outright lies.  I really think Kerry has blundered in making this the grand finale of his campaign.      

CBS, the NY Times and to a lesser extent NBC and ABC are very biased in their reporting of President Bush to the point where CBS fabricated a story and now has had a hand in embelishing another.

he\'s got a point the weekend before the weekend of the elections normally marks the oops we forgot to air this out bs. I mean in common terms is this popped up Friday and around now is when this shit seems to just magically come up just like the Bush drunken driving thing last election.

Frankly, at this point, it doesn\'t matter who Bush is running against.  I\'m not a Kerry supporter, but I sure as hell aint voting Bush.

Yeah....Right...like the UN are out to fix the Election... :rolleyes:

I mean no one has done that BEFORE *coff*2000 and buying your way in to the white house with help from lots of money and half your family[/i]*coff*

Oh and Remember PEOPLE... this time the Winner is who ever the FOX news editor says so and not the voters

Originally posted by ooseven
Yeah....Right...like the UN are out to fix the Election... :rolleyes:

I mean no one has done that BEFORE *coff*2000 and buying your way in to the white house with help from lots of money and half your family[/i]*coff*

Oh and Remember PEOPLE... this time the Winner is who ever the FOX news editor says so and not the voters

This statement shows your ignorance to American politics and that you base your knowledge on the subject from a Michael Moore film. :rolleyes:

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I was listening to Glenn Beck this morning and he said that it would take 100 men with 40 dump trucks 10 full 12 hour days to move this much material.

Yeah, It\'s certainly the military\'s fault.  I mean they are the ones that saw all these guys working and all of these trucks going by without doing anything about it.

Originally posted by videoholic
I was listening to Glenn Beck this morning and he said that it would take 100 men with 40 dump trucks 10 full 12 hour days to move this much material.

Yeah, It\'s certainly the military\'s fault.  I mean they are the ones that saw all these guys working and all of these trucks going by without doing anything about it.

Exactly, logic dictates that it is very improbable that terrorists stole these explosives after the invasion.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Exactly, logic dictates that it is very improbable that terrorists stole these explosives after the invasion.

If thats so, then theres only one question left to ask - WHO?