The "United" States of America

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Originally posted by Cyrus
I cant belive it a black republican clips I\'m ashamed

yea tru i consider myself a dem...and to be honest i was on the dean bandwagon,..because he vocally opposed the war....after he dropped out..there was really nobody else in the dem party that was strong enough to go against bush...

i\'m not a republican..i\'m more for the candidate that i feel can best get the job done...bush tell you to your face straight what he\'s gonna do..in the debate somebody asked him.."what about spending are you going to add to the deficit?" bush stated "yes in regards in spending for the security of america he even stated he would spend billions if needed!" ...gotta respect a man for his honesty and in the way he just lays it on the line without all that political bulls**t....

he wasn\'t my first choice..but liberman...that other candidate and as much as i hate to say it..sharpton?..seriously there was nobody strong enough to take on bush imo after dean dropped out..granted kerry won 2 out of the three debates...i didn\'t see the third one but heard it was a draw,...kerry just doesn\'t move me..and he just seemed indecisive..even before all this flip flopping came along....

just because i\'m black doesn\'t automatically suggest my vote goes to the dem party...if somebody from the repub. party views are similar to mine i will side with that candidate and vice-versa...of course this only happens after i\'ve looked over the democratic candidates...

I don\'t remember when Bush went on TV and said

"Hey guys, we are gonna start ignoring the bill of rights so we can protect your.... rights... from terrorists who want to take them away!"

I missed that part

[Titan]

Originally posted by ooseven
thats the spirit kid....yuo get ready for the draft.


now get back to playing Socom 2... it  will get you ready for the urban battles through the streets of Tehran.

Since I\'m going in the Army anyway, I get sent before a draft in a war is instated. And I don\'t have Socom 2

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
I don\'t remember when Bush went on TV and said

"Hey guys, we are gonna start ignoring the bill of rights so we can protect your.... rights... from terrorists who want to take them away!"

I missed that part

What rights has he taken away from you?

Different parts of 4th and 5th amendment I believe, and probley the 6th too....

Yea, since we\'ve been seeing that happen a lot lately.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger;

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

http://www.epic.org

Indeed, such targets would never even have notice of the fact that their communications were subject to warrantless interception. However, the USA PATRIOT Act does include an exception prohibiting surveillance of someone who is known by the owner of the protected computer "to have an existing contractual relationship with the owner or operator of the protected computer for access to all or part of the protected computer." The ATA, which did not contain such an exception, was so vague that the provision could have been applied to users downloading copyrighted materials off the Web. However, even with this fix, the amendment has little, if anything, to do with legitimate investigations of terrorism.

Been accused of commiting any murders lately DH?  I predict for the next 4 years you will still be here complaining how your rights were stolen, typing from your heated house eating a ham sandwich.

If you\'re not doing anything terribly bad then what are you in worry of?  And if you are, maybe you shouldn\'t be doing it.

Do yourself a favor and watch the documentary titled "Unconstitutional: The War on Our Civil Liberties" by Nonny de la Pena.  It was recently running on the Sundance Channel, but you could probably find it on DVD.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000621NRQ/qid%3D1099610304/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/102-3815014-2882550

It\'s a serious mistake to reduce these issues to simply "If you\'re not doing anything bad, what do you have to worry about."  This film lays it out very clearly how the Patriot act affects ALL of us.  These are complicated issues, and they can\'t be easily reduced to simple good/bad truisms.  http://slate.msn.com/id/2087984/

Just one tiny example:  Under the patriot act, the Federal Government has delegated all sorts of data collection and distribution responsibilities to the private sector, such as the banking industry.  There are no regulatory limitations on those financial institutions using the information for any purpose they see fit, including denying loans, offering unfavorable lending rates, and of course selling it to outside marketers for a profit.  This is just one example of how the law was crafted to enrich corporate america in ways that have nothing to do with national security.

It\'s not that as much as it is privacy and now it can be taken away from us if someone felt the desire.

Will it? Probably not.

The changes are for terrorists, but the fact is that the goverment could eavesdrop on you if it wanted.

-Dan

THX and Bozco, im not worried about them spying on me.

There is this system of checks and ballances, which is the foundation for our government. If the FBI does not require all the Judicial steps to get a warrant, then it is damaging the foundation of our country.

Heh heh

It is crap like that that will ensure Democrat defeat in 2008.  

All you religion hating liberals might want to do yourselves a favor and read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/06/opinion/06kristof.html

OHHH...So NOW we need to care about what foreigners do.

I love how foreign actions/opinions are irrelevant to America except when you agree with those actions/opinions.

The only thing that "ensures" defeat/victory is Diebold.