The "United" States of America

I was talking with a political science professor today and he was comparing the US with Czechoslovakia before the "Velvet Divorce" split the country into the Czech and Slovak Republics.

He thinks that there is a fundamental split in this country that is getting worse with time. He also thinks that we are divided into almost two separate countries with different values and ideas and that this is going to become an extreme lightning rod in the coming years.

I was just wondering what the rest of you felt about the concept of the US being two nations sharing one country and how a potential split would affect both sides.

I should also say that this professor is one of the only conservative professors in the PoliSci department at UMASS.

did you ask him how much LSD he did in the 60\'s?

*flips off bible belt

backward bastards, I swear that only the Northeast and the West know what the hell is going on.

A fundamental split in regards to the issues? I highly doubt something so radical can come out of things such as abortion, stem cell research, etc.  I mean, I understand there is strong opposition from both sides, but nothing close to the levels that would lead to a division in the country.

Originally posted by theomen


backward bastards, I swear that only the Northeast and the West know what the hell is going on.

California only, is hardly the west.

(screw Washington and Oregon)

[Living-In-Clip]

I tend to agree. This country in the last four years has became more and more split. We not only have different political views, but now our moral views are coming into question more and more often.

Originally posted by SwifDi
A fundamental split in regards to the issues?

A fundamental split in general. We are divided urban v. rural, religious v. secular, liberal v. conservative, etc. We are extremely divided.

There can\'t be a split. It\'s not as clear as a CNN electoral map suggests. Different precincts within states vote different ways, different people in those precints vote different ways, etc.

For a split into two nations we\'d either end up with two separate, split nations, or we\'d all have to move to different ends of the country and get on with the civil war.

-Dan

Expanding on what Eik said, take a look at the CNN electoral map by county of any given state.  No "red" state is completely "red" and no "blue" state is completely "blue".  

It should also be noted that Czechoslovakia didn\'t exist before World War I - they were only a country for approximately 50 years and most of those were under either the occupation of the Third Reich or the Soviet Union.  Also it was split for entirely different reasons as opposed to ones your professor is suggesting.

No split will happen - not in our lifetime our our childrens lifetime.  Nor should it split.  Seriously, to even suggest such a thing is idiotic - this guy teaches at UMASS?

Originally posted by Black Samurai
We are divided urban v. rural, religious v. secular, liberal v. conservative, etc. We are extremely divided.

Hasn\'t that always been the issue in the U.S.\'s +200 years of existence?

fact is, the Southern states are too stupid to vote for themselves.  As a solution, The North East and Cali should make their decisions  for them.

I remember once I stumbled onto a site dedicated to some guy that posted on a forum about his time machine and told about the future, and he said the US would have a civil war.

ITS COMING TRUUUUUUUEEEEEE

Originally posted by theomen
fact is, the Southern states are too stupid to vote for themselves.  As a solution, The North East and Cali should make their decisions  for them.

Funny... they feel the same about you.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
this guy teaches at UMASS?

lol, You would be surprised.

Originally posted by Halberto
I remember once I stumbled onto a site dedicated to some guy that posted on a forum about his time machine and told about the future, and he said the US would have a civil war.

ITS COMING TRUUUUUUUEEEEEE

It\'s John Titor.  According to his predictions, the US will be wrought with "waco-like" events in the latter part of 2004 and leading straight into 2005.  If that stuff starts happening, as this election is supposed to be some kind of catalyst for it, then it\'s high time we all started high tailing it for Australia as Canada doesn\'t really want anything to do with us.  

[Titan]

*grabs rifle and sits in rocking chair on porch*