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Originally posted by Unicron!
You have noticed that when we are waiting for opinions we are waiting for opinions that atleast HAVE SOMETHING VALID.
For an opinion to be valid, it needs only to exist. There\'s no such thing as an invalid opinion, even if it\'s based on outright lies (as opposed to my opinion being based on praise-filled reviews and impressions, as I\'ve said).
You described personal tastes to why the game isnt as good.
We, if you have noticed care about spherical opinion.
When someone comes out of nowhere and sais "its not good because I say so and thats my opinion WHICH IS VALID AND YOURS NOT" then dont expect others to take you seriously
No where did I say anyone elses opinion of the game was invalid. I said it didn\'t deserve the hype, and it clearly went without saying that it was my opinion and not some statement to some universal quality scale that doesn\'t exist.
You didnt say anything that has to do with the artistic values of the game anyways.
The characters, enemies, story and setting aren\'t related to the artistic qualities of the game? ....you\'ve lost me on this one.
Are you implying that IGN and Gamespot are paid to sell us faked reviews?Or even the gamer who has playied the game?Or even the gamers that play the game?
No, although it\'s a fact that such things have happened with the media before (search Google for "Driv3r review scandal" or some variation). Companies pay for good reviews, if not directly, then with gifts, free swag, all expense paid trips, parties, etc. It\'s a pretty well known practice within the higher up gaming media. I don\'t doubt for a second IGN particularly have been persuaded to give good reviews before. But even if it\'s a completely honest review, as in it\'s the reviewers honest opinion, that doesn\'t for a second mean that there\'s no hyping involved.
No!Really how many of us have actually seen these "oh godly" commercial?None?Good.
I personally havent seen a single commercial and almost never read any previews of the game.
Are you talking about RE4 or hype? Because I was speaking in general about hype, and there are lots of videogame commercials. If you\'re talking about RE4 and you haven\'t seen previews of it, you must not read much... they were everywhere.
No shit you actually noticed that your opinions have no proof of validity
Facts need proof. Opinions don\'t. Do you know what the **** an opinion is? And My opinions are as valid as any opinion in history. And I was being fair to RE4, admitting there might be some cool enemies I haven\'t seen; that by no means invalidates anything. I have seen and read about a LOT of the enemies, and they all suck IMO. Even if every remaining one was ****ing awesome, it would at best even the balance out to average (IMO). The rest of the enemies couldn\'t possibly be so awesome I\'m going to jump up and say \'Well, this sure made the other ****tard enemies worth trudging through, cause this guy is awesome!\'
That means rehashes are a good thing as long as you like a series?
Yes, always.
Resi4 could be an example that many developers should follow when they make a sequel.
I would hope not.
Dont we all want a sequel that offers something more than rehashes and old ideas executed the same way and used all over again?
Not me, so no, \'we all\' don\'t. Maybe most do, I don\'t know. I won\'t pretend to speak for anyone but myself. If you liked the formula once, there\'s no reason to change it. If you had problems with it, the series isn\'t for you. Move on. That\'s my view on it, always has been. I hate the Tomb Raider sequels for exactly that, people bitch they\'re just rehashes, so EIDOS tried to change it up each time, in the process taking the things I liked out of the series, and adding shit I hated to appease the \'we want a fresh experience\' crowd. That was a pretty big failure, it alienated the true fans, while not managing to get new people interested. Obviously RE4 isn\'t recieving the same reception as the last TR, but I feel exactly the same about both series\'. They were ruined by trying to please non-fans more and more with each game until my interest in the series died.
Someone who has only seen chocolate for the first time might say that it tastes like shit and smells like shit because its brown before he even tries it too
Okay...
Is the possibility of a bit weaker or less puzzles an issue that could make resi4 an overrated title?No
I thought you could respect other peoples opinions. Because it is my opinion that yes, with the current level of praise RE4 is getting, if the puzzle thing is true, it is a huge factor. I can respect that puzzles maybe don\'t matter to you, and you agree with the level of hype. You aren\'t returning such respect.
You can not be so absolute againts a title you havent playied yet that still gets so much praise even before its release.
I have done this in the past. Need I remind you what I said? One time, in my entire game playing life, was I wrong. One. And by wrong, I mean my opinion changed. I can be so against it without playing it first, and moreover, I can and likely will feel the same after trying it, if history is any indication.
Because it has ome things that dont satisfy some of your personal tastes it doesnt mean that the game is overrated.
Overrated is a matter of opinion, just like underrated. And overhyped and underhyped. Sleeper hit. Cult classic. These are all subjective things. If you thought I mean that there is some universal scale of how much hype RE4 deserves, then yes, you\'re right, my opinion of the game is not sufficiant proof it\'s overrated. But if you took it that way, you were misunderstanding me. Nothing more, nothing less. It is my opinion that RE4 deserves less hype and praise. It\'s an opinion, my opinion. It needs no consensus, agreement, validation, or anything else.
You can argue about what you expected and what you got instead, you can tell us your dissapointment but telling people that the game that has the potential to be loved and praised isnt as good, because of your perosnal tastes only, is just not right
The problem for you is, it IS right. It\'s my opinion, there is no difference between me stating my dissapointment, and stating my opinion that it isn\'t as good as the praise indicates. They are both my opinion, and both are saying just about the same thing in this case. What I\'m getting from your post here is that you are a \'the majority is right\' kinda guy. The praise from most people is at a certain level, and therefore it deserves to be at that level. Do you check GameRankings.com everyday to find out what you\'re allowed to like? Because your post here refuting my God given right to opine on the hype surrounding RE4 leads me to believe you might.
I for example enjoy Burnout3 a billion times more than GT3.Yet I would never refer to GT3 as a worse game just based on the fact that the things it offers arent satisfying my personal style and liking.
Despite that, I know that the game is a superb simulation game that is doing an incredibly fine job at satisfying other peoples expectations, liking and style.I even argued with LIC about GT3 when he said it sucked despite that, like him, I am not enjoying it much
I didn\'t call RE4 the worst game. That point is shot down for the simple fact that I never said that, you can\'t act like I did, because nowhere did I do anything except state my opinion. And I can recognize plenty of good aspects about RE4, but that by no means, means I have to agree to the extent of your opinion on the quality (for example, I said I can think of lots of games that look as good as RE4. Others claim RE4 is the best. Reread that. Nowhere does that say RE4\'s graphics suck. Nowhere. I disagree that they are the best, and I personally am not in awe of them, that does NOT mean I don\'t recognize they are good, for the time being.), and it also does not mean I should be compelled to point out the positive things I think about the game. First, I\'m a negative person in general, and second, the reason I posted was because I wanted to put my opinion out there to in some small way counteract the non-stop praise. So why, knowing my reason for posting, would you think I\'d state anything positive about the game? Just because I don\'t comment on it doesn\'t make me blind to it. If everyone was dissing RE4, I might feel compelled to do the opposite; state what I think is good while not stating what I think sucks. But that is not the case.
I can tell others what I personally want to see and how much I dislike this or that about GT3(or any game) but this doesnt give me the right to refer to it as an overrated hyped game while it satisfies other people
You don\'t have to exercise that right, but it IS your right to call GT3 whatever you want. Did it ever cross your mind to think about what overhyped means? And further, to reflect on the fact that a game can both satisfy many, many people while still being overhyped? A overhyped game can be good. It can be average. It can be shite. The only thing over hyped means is that the person saying it feels it got more hype than it deserved. Nothing more nothing less.
I hope you see the difference
Sorry, I don\'t. Both are opinions, to be stated or not, by every person living in a free country who wishes to do so.
Its the way you approached it that mostly makes me argue with you and not the opinion
I\'m not sure what \'way\' you mean, as all I\'ve done is state my opinion from the start. I can see now what an aversion you have to the word \'overhyped\', but that seems, to be blunt with no ill intention if I may, to be your problem.
