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« on: January 23, 2005, 10:34:51 PM »
I bought this movie because I\'ve heard really good things about it.

It really is a great movie. You\'re not only exposed to the other side but you\'re actually able to notice just how much the media is ****ed up.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2005, 12:16:28 AM »
Its the one made by al-Jazeera? I saw it, pretty good.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2005, 05:11:23 AM »
You are kidding right?  This movie is pure propaganda and Miss tiq are you trying to say our media is messed up or al jazeera?  If you think al jazeera speaks the truth you need your head examined.

Oh yeah and thanks for supporting al jazeera by purchasing it - IMO you support terrorism.
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2005, 05:32:08 AM »
Well seeing as to how I worked in the media for 14 years, I\'d have to say that the agenda pushing is such bullshit.

The only thing you can\'t do on a local level is do a story about an auto dealership.  Just too much ad power to F with.  THey all act as a conglomerate and if one gets slammed they all pull out.  That would shut down a station real quick.

On the national level, I didn\'t see anything either.  I\'ve been on quite a few national events and have spoken with many people.  

Some opinionated shows of course have tremendous slant, but that\'s what you expect.  Standard news though isn\'t that bad.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2005, 08:06:29 PM »
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You are kidding right?  This movie is pure propaganda and Miss tiq are you trying to say our media is messed up or al jazeera?  If you think al jazeera speaks the truth you need your head examined.

Oh yeah and thanks for supporting al jazeera by purchasing it - IMO you support terrorism.



Are you stupid?

Have you even watched the movie. It has nothing, if anything, to do with politics and "propaganda" It focuses and accentuates the flaws and the errors that our media is presenting to us to be completely objective.

If you think any of the media speaks the truth then you should really just die. This movie presents the OTHER side of the story but I haven\'t forgotten that you don\'t care about the other side of the story. You only care about what you want to hear.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2005, 08:08:48 PM »
who cares about the "other" side when neither are very accurate?

i would give "the onion" more journalistic credibility then both put together
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2005, 08:10:36 PM »
It\'s not about what the media presents to be truth entirely. It gives you insights on alot of the things that go on in the background before any bullshit is coughed up. By both sides. It also presents just how biased the sides are.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2005, 08:16:02 PM »
and you had to pay money to realize that?
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2005, 10:19:16 PM »
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You are kidding right?  This movie is pure propaganda and Miss tiq are you trying to say our media is messed up or al jazeera?  If you think al jazeera speaks the truth you need your head examined.

Oh yeah and thanks for supporting al jazeera by purchasing it - IMO you support terrorism.
You have absolutely no idea what you\'re talking about.  You may have some problem with Al Jazeera, and you\'re entitled to think what you want about them, but this movie is not Al Jazeera.  It\'s a documentary  about Al Jazeera.  If you actually watch it, you will discover that it includes a great many interviews and commentary that are critical of Al Jazeera.  Also included is material that is critical of our US news reporting.  Both sides are presented.  In no way is this documentary propaganda.

I find it amazing how you constantly make up your mind about things based on what someone else told you to think.  Any time you run across something that might have the tiniest hint of criticism of US institutions, then you instantly brand it as "propaganda," dismiss it, and thus save yourself the hassle of paying attention to it and being challenged by it.

Oh yeah, let\'s not forget you accusing someone of supporting terrorism by watching a documentary.  That\'s hilarious.  How simple your world view is if you actually believe such an ignorant statement.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2005, 11:14:05 PM »
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Well seeing as to how I worked in the media for 14 years, I\'d have to say that the agenda pushing is such bullshit.

...

On the national level, I didn\'t see anything either.  I\'ve been on quite a few national events and have spoken with many people.  

Some opinionated shows of course have tremendous slant, but that\'s what you expect.  Standard news though isn\'t that bad.
Would you consider not reporting on something to be, if not agenda pushing, at least agenda biased?

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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2005, 05:06:47 AM »
I wouldn\'t call not reporting on an advertiser an agenda.  It\'s essentially in this case not that big of a deal.  If you don\'t already know that car lots are filled with dirty scoundrals then you\'ve never bought a car.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2005, 05:31:02 AM »
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You have absolutely no idea what you\'re talking about.  You may have some problem with Al Jazeera, and you\'re entitled to think what you want about them, but this movie is not Al Jazeera.  It\'s a documentary  about Al Jazeera.  If you actually watch it, you will discover that it includes a great many interviews and commentary that are critical of Al Jazeera.  Also included is material that is critical of our US news reporting.  Both sides are presented.  In no way is this documentary propaganda.

I find it amazing how you constantly make up your mind about things based on what someone else told you to think.  Any time you run across something that might have the tiniest hint of criticism of US institutions, then you instantly brand it as "propaganda," dismiss it, and thus save yourself the hassle of paying attention to it and being challenged by it.

Oh yeah, let\'s not forget you accusing someone of supporting terrorism by watching a documentary.  That\'s hilarious.  How simple your world view is if you actually believe such an ignorant statement.


This is all about Al Jazeera and heavily biased toward it.  You are blind if you can\'t see it.  Then again why wouldn\'t I expect any other viewpoint from liberals like you or people who hate this country like Mystiq? :rolleyes:

Al Jazeera is more biased than Fox when reporting stories about Iraq and the Middle East in general.  As mm said "who cares about the other side" - you live in America and these people who Al Jazeera gives the spotlight to wouldn\'t hesitate in killing you or causing harm to this country.  Example?  Marine shooting enemy combatant in Fallujah gets replayed over and over as "proof of evil America" - while the execution of Margaret Hassan is mentioned once.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2005, 07:42:37 AM »
Giga:  Did you see the documentary "Control Room?"
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2005, 07:45:36 AM »
No, but I have read reviews and heard countless other opinions on it.  The same crowd that thought F911 was a great movie think this one is as well... need I say more?

Speaking of F911 - no Oscar Nominations I see :laughing:
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2005, 08:49:59 AM »
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I wouldn\'t call not reporting on an advertiser an agenda.  It\'s essentially in this case not that big of a deal.  If you don\'t already know that car lots are filled with dirty scoundrals then you\'ve never bought a car.
I was talking more so in general terms. Like if CNN/Local News decided to NOT report on something negative instead of reporting extensively on something positive.
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