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Schiavo Case
« on: March 21, 2005, 08:05:51 AM »
Federal Judge Reviews Schiavo Case
Monday, March 21, 2005
 
PINELLAS PARK, Fla.  — A federal judge is reviewing whether to impose an emergency injunction to reinsert Terri Schiavo\'s (search)feeding tube and has called a 3 p.m. EST hearing into the matter.

U.S. District Judge James Whittemore (search), who was nominated to the court in 1999 by former President Clinton, is considering an appeal filed Monday by Schiavo\'s parents. The move follows an unprecedented act by Congress and President Bush to step into the case of Schiavo, a severely brain-damaged Florida woman.

An attorney for her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, arrived at federal district court in Tampa and filed a request for an emergency injunction to keep their daughter fed.

When the attorney, David Gibbs III, was asked if he had any indication when the judge would rule on the request, he said: "I have no way to know, just that it\'s in the hands of the court."

Early Monday morning, Bush signed a bill designed to save the life of a severely brain-damaged woman, after lawmakers passed the measure at a late-night emergency session of Congress.

The so-called "Palm Sunday Compromise" allows a federal court to review the the case of Schiavo, whose husband Michael had the feeding tube that keeps her alive removed. The House of Representatives (search) voted 203-58 in favor of the bill shortly after midnight; the Senate unanimously passed it on Sunday afternoon.


The president cut short a visit to his ranch in Crawford, Texas and returned to the White House for a chance to sign the measure, which he did at 1:11 a.m. EST.

"In cases like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life," Bush said in a statement after signing the bill.

The legislation says the federal court, after determining the merits of the suit, "shall issue such declaratory and injunctive relief as may be necessary to protect the rights" of the woman. Injunctive relief in this case could mean reinserting the feeding tubes.

Schiavo\'s father, Bob Schindler, thanked lawmakers but acknowledged that "we still have a few hurdles yet."

"I\'m numb, I\'m just totally numb. This whole thing, it\'s hard to believe it," he told reporters outside his daughter\'s hospice.

Schiavo\'s feeding tube was removed Friday upon a district judge\'s order, after a House lawyers\' emergency request to intervene was denied. Congress quickly scrambled to move the case to a different venue, on the chance that a federal court might order an injunction on the removal of Schiavo\'s tube until it can be determined whether Schiavo\'s husband, Michael, or her parents, have the authority to decide to keep her alive or let her starve to death.

Doctors say Schiavo, 41, is in a persistent vegetative state and will not fully recover from a heart attack she endured 15 years ago. If the case goes to a federal court, Schiavo\'s tube could be reinserted while the ruling is deliberated. Her parents and siblings insist Schiavo is responsive to their encouragement.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150988,00.html

This has been in the headlines for weeks leading up to her feeding tube being removed so I thought I would post it here to see some opinions.  

Personally, I don\'t think Congress should have gotten involved, but at the same time I also feel something isn\'t quite right about the husband\'s timing and motivation to have it removed.  

I have seen video of her following a balloon that a family member is moving over her head and responding to her father when he talks to her so I have a hard time believing this woman is brain dead.  The husband has already moved in with another woman and they have 2 children.  He has obviously moved on with his life, why not just divorce her and let the parents who want to take care of her do it?  There was no living will and the husbands claim that she didn\'t wish to be on feeding tubes surfaced seven years after she had been in this state and it happened right after Terri\'s lawyers won a huge medical malpractice suit.
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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2005, 08:47:05 AM »
I think its wrong to kill her..

Are they really claiming she is brain dead? I saw a video showing a person hugging her or whatever, and she looked at the person and it looked like she was smiling.

I have to agree with Bush for once, dont kill her. :)
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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2005, 01:17:28 PM »
My psychology teacher was really upset about it this morning. All she would say is that its down right scary that they would pass a law for just one person.

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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2005, 02:35:28 PM »
Yea, honestly this is getting way more attention then it deserves.  Who gives a fuck.

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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2005, 02:52:24 PM »
All I have to say is if I\'m in that state hook me up with a very large does of something that will put me away for good. But her family can do what ever they want with her, I wonder what this woman would do to herself as far as dieing or keeping herself alive.

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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2005, 04:00:39 PM »
Let the courts decide.  Oh... they already did?  Well ok then.

Congress has no business wasting taxpayer dollars intervening in a situation that\'s already been decided by the duly appointed authorities in our medical and judicial systems.  

Republican congressmen and the president are doing this simply for political gain; to score points with the pro-life zealots in their constituiency.  They can\'t make abortion illegal, so they figure they might as well throw them a crumb by making an example of a brain dead middle aged woman.

Furthermore, in 1999 as Texas governor, George Bush signed a law "which allowed hospitals to withdraw life support from patients over the objections of the family, if they consider the treatment to be nonbeneficial."  Why the change in direction?

Oh, one last thing... Current ABC poll:  http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/978a1Schiavo.pdf

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Removal of feeding tube
Support 63
Oppose 28

Federal Intervention

Support 35
Oppose 60

Appropriate for Congress to get involved?

Appropriate 27
Not Appropriate 70

Reason political leaders are trying to keep Shiavo alive

Concern about Shiavo 19
Political Advantage 67
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2005, 04:59:19 PM »
Good God you are using an internet poll as a statistic? LMAO
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2005, 05:16:55 PM »
Not an internet poll.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PollVault/story?id=599622&page=1

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This ABC News poll was conducted by telephone March 20, 2005, among a random national sample of 501 adults. The results have a 4.5-point error margin. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS Intersearch of Horsham, Pa.
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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2005, 07:35:59 PM »
Bleh so I was wrong - it looks just like the MSNBC moonbat poll.  Anyway, I seriously doubt those numbers are near accurate.

And since you launched a tirade against Republicans isn\'t it the Demorats who want to save everyone on the planet except for their fellow Americans?
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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 07:52:01 PM »
How mature :rolleyes:
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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2005, 10:31:09 PM »
Why not try refuting any of the points I made, or post your own poll?

Why is it that Republicans constantly yammer about government waste and the sanctity of the Constitution, yet when their OWN CONGRESSMEN SQUANDER taxpayer dollars attempting to circumvent the separation of powers and overturn a perfectly legitimate judicial decision, they are strangely silent?  "Everything\'s fine because it\'s OUR guys doing it, right?"  WTF????  It\'s called a DOUBLE STANDARD.

The public doesn\'t want this.  The appeal is pointless.  The Parent\'s lawsuit will fail.  This is all a WASTE OF MONEY and EFFORT.  Congress has better things to do than this.

Maybe you should have thought twice before starting this topic.
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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2005, 02:22:25 AM »
god damn, you guys can\'t let a single thread exist without it turning into a republican vs. democrat pointless feud.
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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2005, 04:41:04 AM »
bleh, you know the footage that\'s shown on TV? it doesn\'t show you the whole picture, so you can\'t really make any useful inferences from a 3 second video clip! the clips are shown for their editorial value too, so in a case like this, short clips are fundamentally and inherently unreliable (as is the case with most situations). SO LAHHH!

MRI scans or whatever show her brain is fucked. There is no decernable brain activity that suggests she\'s even asleep. What she\'s doing is just random reflexes! So let her die with what dignity she has left and say sorry for making her a political apple.

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2005, 04:42:13 AM »
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Schiavo Case - Terri Schiavo Dead 3/31/05 10:17 AM
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2005, 04:53:15 AM »
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Congress has better things to do than this.


Like making sure people don\'t cheat at baseball?

Aahahahha.

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