ps3 $399

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip



That seems very narrow minded. MS only has HALO? What about Perfect Dark Zero? Project Gotham Racing 3? The list goes on and on. Granted, none of them are as big titles as the PS3 (which none of appeal to me, then again, none of MS\'s line up appeals to me either). No, the PS3 isn\'t doomed. Don\'t recall saying that. We are arguing that it is to high priced for the main consumer on launch day. Then again, Sony\'s hype can do a lot, otherwise how would they stay in business selling subpar electronic equipment?

I\'m guessing your hoping a bunch of B games and a lower price tag and an earlier release date will push MS ahead of Sony.  We will see how the masses respond to this marketing technique.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by alliswell
I\'m guessing your hoping a bunch of B games and a lower price tag and an earlier release date will push MS ahead of Sony.  We will see how the masses respond to this marketing technique.

Hoping? I could care less. I won\'t buy either one on launch day. They both look fairly crappy to me.

I simply think that a $400 dollar price tag for a console that doesn\'t have a pack in game or memory card is outrageous.

I think you need to go back and read about seven pages, so you\'re on the same page as the rest of us on the subject.

Originally posted by alliswell
The PS3 isnt doomed.  People will spend $400 for the technology.  By the time the hype dies down the console will be at 300-330$.  

When gamers see Grand Theft Auto,  Gran Turismo 5, Final Fantasy 13,  Metal Gear Solid 4 etc on PS3,  they will buy it.  The games will sell this machine maybe not early on,  but 1-2 years in its life younger gamers will get the money for it

 

That depends.MGS4 although stated a PS3 exclusive Konami can port it on XBOX360 if they see more profit there.The same counts for Sqauaresoft games.

It also depends when these games will be available on the console.If they are launch titles then great(doubtful).But if they are not and these companies show the same interest for XBO360 it wont seem like the advandage Sony had the past generations.

Some gamers will get the money to buy it 1-2 years later but the important thing is to sell well both Software and Hardware from the beginning.

Its also important how well XBOX360 will do compared to PS3.

Also you avoid that Sony will have to face bigger losses with each console sold.And decision made by MS to compete really affect Sony\'s decision making like market price.And that means consumers

If you take a look at the numbers estimated and they proove right it would be extremely hard for Sony to cover the losses especially now that competition is more intense

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Uni, I don\'t care if you don\'t want to debate the point and just admit defeat, that\'s fine. Don\'t make this thread even longer with responses like the last previous two. I\'ll just delete them. If you want to debate, that\'s fine, otherwise STFU.

bouhouhou ok mr L-I-C.I admit defeat(Did I mention that I am a liar?)

[Living-In-Clip]

Biggest mistake MS is making is launching first. Gives Sony time to make last mintue changes and make games look better than what MS has out. They should wait and at most, launch two months ahead of time!

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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Biggest mistake MS is making is launching first. Gives Sony time to make last mintue changes and make games look better than what MS has out. They should wait and at most, launch two months ahead of time!

hmmm..i don\'t know LIC, for some reason i feel ms is in a better position this time around than sony. i don\'t think graphics will make the difference this time around, and even tho sony is comin with what blu ray technology? (see i think the general public won\'t even care about that) i really don\'t even know what that\'s about, but if ms can sell it\'s xbox at a lower price plus have some solid titles by the time ps3 releases, i can see them doing fairly well...

but then again who knows even tho it\'s costing sony financially to make ps3, maybe by the time it\'s ready to launch they will have cut down production costs by then...

Originally posted by Unicron!


Also you avoid that Sony will have to face bigger losses with each console sold.And decision made by MS to compete really affect Sony\'s decision making like market price.And that means consumers

If you take a look at the numbers estimated and they proove right it would be extremely hard for Sony to cover the losses especially now that competition is more intense

You know,  I don\'t think you would\'nt mind having a Microsoft microwave,  MS oven, MS TV, MS Speakers,  MS mp3 player..

I\'ll let you in on  a secret  MS wants to rule the console business not just be the top,  but be the only one.  Their ultimate goal is total domination and submissivness in console gaming.  PC gaming is too wild and free to be tamed and ruled,  so they turned their attention with great jealousy and envy to Sony,  who runs the billi]on dollar industry with ease.  Why can\'t we smash these puny corporati]ons and run this industry our selves?  We will soon patent games and charge fees for using our exclusive console technology.  How do I know this?  Isn\'t it evident!!  I was at a book store a few days ago and noticed all the multi platform video game magazines had the 360 on the cover,  none had the PS3 except for the PS mags,  which,  to great heartache and dismay,  are slowly being bought out by MS.  Exhibit A:  PSM:  I opened last months issue to find a XBOX 360 mini magazine inside claiming it was my next console!!  It has begun, slowly yes,  but it has begun.  Exhibit B:  I read a multiplatform mag to discover VERY LITTLE PS3 info!!  They said YOU WON\'T BELIVE 360 graphics and had a 5 page 360 secti]on!  (they were from E3)  Yet they had a little column in the corner for the PS3 with Tiny words that looked like they were in Times New Roman 8 size.  Armed withm an unlimited budget and the will and experience to rule what it wants in its eye,  MS looks like an unstoppable machine.  Unless, of course,  We,  the gamers,  stand up to MS,  all hope is lost.  MS will be the only company in the business.  SLure,  Magnavox may make a console but it will fail

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meh alliswell..i think you can apply that logic to any major corporation. sony included...

Originally posted by alliswell
You know,  I don\'t think you would\'nt mind having a Microsoft microwave,  MS oven, MS TV, MS Speakers,  MS mp3 player..

I\'ll let you in on  a secret  MS wants to rule the console business not just be the top,  but be the only one.  Their ultimate goal is total domination and submissivness in console gaming.  PC gaming is too wild and free to be tamed and ruled,  so they turned their attention with great jealousy and envy to Sony,  who runs the billi]on dollar industry with ease.  Why can\'t we smash these puny corporati]ons and run this industry our selves?  We will soon patent games and charge fees for using our exclusive console technology.  How do I know this?  Isn\'t it evident!!  I was at a book store a few days ago and noticed all the multi platform video game magazines had the 360 on the cover,  none had the PS3 except for the PS mags,  which,  to great heartache and dismay,  are slowly being bought out by MS.  Exhibit A:  PSM:  I opened last months issue to find a XBOX 360 mini magazine inside claiming it was my next console!!  It has begun, slowly yes,  but it has begun.  Exhibit B:  I read a multiplatform mag to discover VERY LITTLE PS3 info!!  They said YOU WON\'T BELIVE 360 graphics and had a 5 page 360 secti]on!  (they were from E3)  Yet they had a little column in the corner for the PS3 with Tiny words that looked like they were in Times New Roman 8 size.  Armed withm an unlimited budget and the will and experience to rule what it wants in its eye,  MS looks like an unstoppable machine.  Unless, of course,  We,  the gamers,  stand up to MS,  all hope is lost.  MS will be the only company in the business.  SLure,  Magnavox may make a console but it will fail

You are one paranoid kid.  A very misinformed paranoid kid at that.

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by alliswell
You know,  I don\'t think you would\'nt mind having a Microsoft microwave,  MS oven, MS TV, MS Speakers,  MS mp3 player..

I\'ll let you in on  a secret  MS wants to rule the console business not just be the top,  but be the only one.  Their ultimate goal is total domination and submissivness in console gaming.  PC gaming is too wild and free to be tamed and ruled,  so they turned their attention with great jealousy and envy to Sony,  who runs the billi]on dollar industry with ease.  Why can\'t we smash these puny corporati]ons and run this industry our selves?  We will soon patent games and charge fees for using our exclusive console technology.  How do I know this?  Isn\'t it evident!!  I was at a book store a few days ago and noticed all the multi platform video game magazines had the 360 on the cover,  none had the PS3 except for the PS mags,  which,  to great heartache and dismay,  are slowly being bought out by MS.  Exhibit A:  PSM:  I opened last months issue to find a XBOX 360 mini magazine inside claiming it was my next console!!  It has begun, slowly yes,  but it has begun.  Exhibit B:  I read a multiplatform mag to discover VERY LITTLE PS3 info!!  They said YOU WON\'T BELIVE 360 graphics and had a 5 page 360 secti]on!  (they were from E3)  Yet they had a little column in the corner for the PS3 with Tiny words that looked like they were in Times New Roman 8 size.  Armed withm an unlimited budget and the will and experience to rule what it wants in its eye,  MS looks like an unstoppable machine.  Unless, of course,  We,  the gamers,  stand up to MS,  all hope is lost.  MS will be the only company in the business.  SLure,  Magnavox may make a console but it will fail

Welcome to the world of business. Every company wants to be number one, so what is exactly your point? You are a paranoid kid. MS is not the \'boogeyman\'. They are just like any other company, they want to make money in any possible way.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Biggest mistake MS is making is launching first. Gives Sony time to make last mintue changes and make games look better than what MS has out. They should wait and at most, launch two months ahead of time!

ps3 is launching in spring 06 6months after xbox360 what last minute changes can sony make?

ask sega

ps3 is launching in spring 06 6months after xbox360 what last minute changes can sony make?

Ditch the Blu-ray drive in order to drop the price down by $100 to $299 to compete with XBAhhhhXXXX.:rolleyes:

[Paul2]

will developers going to be happy if sony ditch blu ray?

As for me, i like the addition of blu ray...

No loss for American/European devs. Only some Jap developers might get upset do to the fact that they love using FMV, which will be in HD(lots of space would be needed then)

Sure Blu-ray is nice, but F##K paying an extra $100 more just to have it, when it doesn’t in any way add or enhance the gaming experience. Hell I\'d prefer it if Sony spent that extra 100  towards the gaming hardware.  If I want a blue-ray player I\'d rather get the better stand alone player. The one in ps3 will be bare bones. No different than using your ps2 as a reference DVD player. Think about it how many people who buy PS3 or will even have a HDTV. Most people in the US still have SDTV.