Sony might wait till 07 to launch PS3!!!

Should not be any surprise, someone has to keep this section of the forum alive.

By the Way Samwise Sony potentially holding back is GOOD NEWS, this means that dev will have more time to build quality launch titles that hopefully will take advantage of the complex/powerful ps3 architecture. By the way it\'s my understanding that the Only reason Sony has aggressively tried to push the PS3 for next year was do to pressure from M$ 360

For instance XBOX360 first gen games will be nothing more than polish and a couple of extra nifty things. Aside from what M$ has said about XNA ease of use, XBOX and PS3 architecture is complex and it will take quite a bit of time and resources before the developers begin to really understand how to tap it\'s power. If SONY does indeed wait till 07 to launch the system, you can be well assured that it\'s lanuch will far surpress the 360\'s

Well look at it this way, the PS2 was the most hyped, as well as the most sought after console EVER during launch.  Even still, the launch games sucked.

SSX was fun, but forgettable.  Tekken Tag was new graphics thrown on Tekken 3\'s age-old fighting system.  So maybe polish is all a console needs to launch successfully.

If they are delaying they should just shoot for November 2006, 1 year after the sexbox.

Given the right set of circumstances, however, that release window (at least in North America) could intentionally lag until after the 2006 holiday buying season.

This was the first thing to catch my eye.  From that I gather the delay includes North America, and most probably Europe as well.

This looks like nothing more than an effort to milk the PS2 for all it\'s worth.  

In a research memo sent to investors, Wedbush senior analyst Michael Pachter set up the following scene for a delayed PS3 launch. It starts with the current-generation Xbox being priced down to $149 post-Xbox 360 launch, but no lower. Concurrent with that situation--an Xbox 360 at an unspecified price and the Xbox at $149--Sony would drop the price of the PlayStation 2 to $99.

The Xbox being priced down to $149?  It\'s already at $149, and has been for quite some time.

There are two components to that pricing strategy: the first is that a $99 PS2 would offer a significant distraction as the 360 launches. As Pachter states: "We believe that the company will attempt to disrupt the Xbox 360 launch with a price cut, and as a result may succeed in diverting attention away from the higher-priced next-generation console."

This is stupid.  Early adopters are the people who are going to buy a Xbox 360 this fall, and they will not settle for a five year old console.

Anyone who is ready for next generation, and wants it, is going to have a Xbox 360.  That is unless there are 360 shortages as I suspect there will be, and then they\'ll settle for an alternative gaming fix.  My bet is that any early adopters of the Xbox 360 are well aware of what this generation has to offer and don\'t care about any price drops on current generation hardware.

For instance XBOX360 first gen games will be nothing more than polish and a couple of extra nifty things. Aside from what M$ has said about XNA ease of use, XBOX and PS3 architecture is complex and it will take quite a bit of time and resources before the developers begin to really understand how to tap it\'s power. If SONY does indeed wait till 07 to launch the system, you can be well assured that it\'s lanuch will far surpress the 360\'s

Apparently you haven\'t been paying attention.  The launch games are more than spit and polish ports.

We won\'t see the graphical difference, if there is one, between Xbox 360 and PS3 until a couple years after each one is out.  By the time Sony launches PS3, Xbox 360 developers will be going into their second generation titles.  Plus MS could very well hold off on any price drops for the console, or introduce a platinum price, until PS3 is out.  

I don\'t see what advantage Sony has by delaying the PS3, unless it\'s to reduce cost of the already costly components.

Apparently you haven\'t been paying attention. The launch games are more than spit and polish ports.

Until I am shown the proof, you must understand my skepticism. PGR and some others like DOA4 seem to bring nothing more than a graphical facelift and some little extra nifty features. I mean seriously how can we expect 360 launch games to be more considering the limited amount of time these developers have in order to meet the deadline for launch . Devs will need allot more time before they can begin to exploit the 360. Until then it seems IMO, that most of what we will get in it\'s first year will be polish. GOW will probably be the first game to truly exhibit the 360\'s potential.

It\'s funny this is the first Gen that I will hold out on for a year. Both 360 and PS3 offer very little incentive to me as a consumer until I see results that I feel warrant the purchase of these 2, I will be more than happy with my PC.

I hope SONY follows through with the delay, hopefully by then when it PS3 launchs there will be some AAA content that will drive my interest in purchasing the machine. Plus maybe they can bring the price down a little by then.

M$ on the other hand is doing the smart thing by launching early even though they will not have much to show IMO for the first year. They need to position themselves better so that they can get a strong hold on the Market before SONY does with there PS3.
M$ IMO, had no better choice but to get the 360 out in the market first. If they delay 360, the SONY hype machine will do mega damage to them, even if 360 had better looking games and content if it launched within the same vicinity as PS3, people would still flock to SONY do to bran name recognition.

We won\'t see the graphical difference, if there is one, between Xbox 360 and PS3 until a couple years after each one is out

I agree, I feel the factor which will determine the graphical outpput of each console will be primarly based which competitor has the better development tools. M$ does alot of talking about XNA, so what will be interesting is to see the proof in the pudding.

By the time Sony launches PS3, Xbox 360 developers will be going into their second generation titles. Plus MS could very well hold off on any price drops for the console, or introduce a platinum price, until PS3 is out.

That\'s defiantly what M$ will do, plus by SONY delaying the PS3, this gives Bungie more time to complete HALO 3, cause as it stands right now, I feel there is no way that they will be able to release Halo 3 on time to meet the current PS3 launch date.

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I hope SONY follows through with the delay, hopefully by then when it PS3 launchs there will be some AAA content that will drive my interest in purchasing the machine. Plus maybe they can bring the price down a little by then.
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I still don\'t see how this will benefit them in the long run.

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SSX was fun, but forgettable. Tekken Tag was new graphics thrown on Tekken 3\'s age-old fighting system. So maybe polish is all a console needs to launch successfully.

SSX as "fun"....Pushin\' it, bud.

i still pop SSX in from time to time, great game

it wasn\'t fps/racing/platform/RPG # 343537

I loved Tricky.

And when we\'re supposed to look forward to another Project Gotham Racing or Dead or Alive or Tekken SIX!, I can understand why consoles are becoming so much more boring.

(Disclaimer: Didn\'t do research - picked up opinions from this thread only)

And I\'m pretty leary of Godfather. First, I think it\'s by EA which means they\'re going to phone it in, anyway. But it\'ll probably end up some GTA knock-off with different clothes and less depth.

-Dan

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Mark my word, \'Godfather\' will suck. Not sure why Soul has grand delusions of it being anything but a sub-par movie based game.

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This is stupid.  Early adopters are the people who are going to buy a Xbox 360 this fall, and they will not settle for a five year old console.

Anyone who is ready for next generation, and wants it, is going to have a Xbox 360.  That is unless there are 360 shortages as I suspect there will be, and then they\'ll settle for an alternative gaming fix.  My bet is that any early adopters of the Xbox 360 are well aware of what this generation has to offer and don\'t care about any price drops on current generation hardware.

Your early adopters,  who are they?  I don\'t know many.  I only know of a few on this video game chat board that say they want any next gen system on launch.  Most say they will wait for better games for the system etc

The original Xbox didn\'t sell out at launch where I\'m at,  I don\'t think it ever did.  In fact,  I think the older PS2 was in higher demand,  maybe even the PS1.  I remember looking at how many Xbox boxes were left compared to PS2.  At times there wouldn\'t be any PS2 boxes left but there would be a ton of Xbox boxes left.  I thought "how pathetic"

Even if the Xbox 360 sells out and there is a shortage,  so what?  100% of the people I know/talk to got their system 6-12 months after it\'s initial release.  These people are a much larger audience than earlier adopters as you call them.

By not being an early adopter,  these people are not hardcore like their early adopter (as you like to call them) counterparts.

Non-hardcore gamers don\'t save up money to buy $300 consoles.  They either wait for a price drop or tax return or something else.

Now lets say Mom A goes into a Electronic store.  It his December 1.  Little Johnny wants to play video games.  Now Mom A is looking to buy him a system that will play video games.  She sees the new Xbox 360 for $300 but she also sees the PS2 for $99.  

What do you  think Mom A will buy?  

Now lets say Mom B goes into a Electronic store.  It his December 1.  Little Robert wants to play video games.  Now Mom B is looking to buy him a system that will play video games.    She sees a PS2 for $99.  "Hey,  this use to be $149,"  says Mom B.  Where is the nex Xbox?  Asks Mom B.  We are sold out,  says store Clerk A.  

What do you think Mom B will buy?

Sony wins either way

Why rush the PS3?  There is such a rabid fanbase they could release the thing in 2008 and it would still outsell everything.  Who wants a buggy console?  Who wants poor launch games?

I WANT Sony to delay the system.  The games are so early they aren\'t even playable,  heck,  most of the games we\'ve seen so far aren\'t even \'real\'.  TGS MAY have playable games.  Don\'t rush this,  Sony

Mom B will never know that the PS2 dropped price, and you underestimate the power of Little Johnny.  


Oh and an English class or two wouldn\'t hurt you.

The current gen sucks ass. Their is nothing left in the ps2 for it too last 2 more fucking years. The console is so dated it is sad.
I already gave mine away and couldn\'t care less.

Just because the ps3 is so fucking expensive they want to try and wait and wait too drive cost down. Buy 2007 who gives a fuck about ps3 besides MM?

The ps3 will launch in spring 06 like expected. There is no life left in the ps2 to warrant 2 more years of dated play.

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I couldn\'t be bothered to read that nonsense that Alliswell posted.. I recommend an english class.

guess you didnt read what Quddus wrote
it\'s like he wiped his ass and somehow maneged to find words and irrational thoughts in it, then posted it

There is no life left in the ps2 to warrant 2 more years of dated play.

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dated play