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« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2005, 04:10:56 PM »
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i would say that the PSone makes sony mega bucks.  the thing probably costs then less than 5$ to produce one
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« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2005, 04:12:36 PM »
I like how I get called out but LIC slips under the radar.  Maybe that\'s because HE STOLE MY INSULT :(.
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« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2005, 05:02:34 PM »
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i would say that the PSone makes sony mega bucks.  the thing probably costs then less than 5$ to produce one
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« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2005, 05:55:22 PM »
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« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2005, 07:44:43 PM »
Ok you answered to yourself.Now I want the other link.You know...the specific fact you are talking about? :rolleyes:
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« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2005, 02:27:41 AM »

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« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2005, 04:57:51 AM »
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i would say that the PSone makes sony mega bucks.  the thing probably costs then less than 5$ to produce one


But, obviously, as time marches on Sony can\'t simply rely on a past success that will inevitably fall off the gaming radar entirely.  Also, I don\'t think that large retail stores sell Playstation one games anymore.  That should signal that the console is on the down and out.   Sony has moved on, and that is evident since there is a PS3 on the way.  

It\'s my opinion that the current generation is past its prime.  I think we\'ve seen the best the consoles have to offer in terms of ingenuity and innovation. Developers are outgrowing them so they naturally move on to new projects on more capable hardware.  The longer Sony gives the competition in the market without challenging them the more a chance that either Microsoft or Nintendo can manage to create the image that they are at the forefront of the game (especially if the PS3 does not produce visuals that blow Xbox 360 and Revolution out of the water.  Sony proved with their PS2, arguably the weakest console of this generation, that graphic horsepower isn\'t everything.  Certainly not necessary to gain great market share).

I don\'t think Sony can afford to dwell on past success, and it won\'t do you much good, mm, to argue on it.
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« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2005, 04:59:05 AM »
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PS3 to support OS X.
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« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2005, 05:32:52 AM »
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I don\'t think Sony can afford to dwell on past success, and it won\'t do you much good, mm, to argue on it.


Sony\'s position for next gen is stronger and more secure than with PS2 launch.

They have less to lose now than in 2000.

ow... and OS X on Cell tech is purely bussiness driven development. Merely formalities to gain broader industry ground. It won\'t benefit nor \'damage\' gamers in any way.
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« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2005, 05:55:52 AM »
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Sony\'s position for next gen is stronger and more secure than with PS2 launch.


Tell that to Nintendo when they were enjoying success from their Super Nintendo and further securing a stranglehold with their second generation hardware, and then taken aback before they ever entered the third generation by a competitor with a very different business model.

The N64 had the wildly popular Nintendo name to back it, and it was more powerful than the PS or Saturn.  I don\'t think I have to tell you how that all worked out.

Nothing is for certain, and you\'d be a fool to assume otherwise.
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« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2005, 06:04:09 AM »
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Tell that to Nintendo when they were enjoying success from their Super Nintendo and further securing a stranglehold with their second generation hardware, and then taken aback before they ever entered the third generation by a competitor with a very different business model.

The N64 had the wildly popular Nintendo name to back it, and it was more powerful than the PS or Saturn.  I don\'t think I have to tell you how that all worked out.

Nothing is for certain, and you\'d be a fool to assume otherwise.


No. Succes in the 8 bit/ 16 bit era games industry was based on completely different grounds.

The N64\'s \'failure\' (it was still pretty succesfull imo) was already rooted in it\'s hardware blueprints ; the cartridge system and hefty 3rd party license fees.

If you desperately wanna make a Nintendo to Sony comparison then I\'d say that the PS2 is like the NES and the PS3\'ll be the SNES.

PS4 is a different & open story....
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« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2005, 06:18:41 AM »
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No. Succes in the 8 bit/ 16 bit era games industry was based on completely different grounds.

The N64\'s \'failure\' (it was still pretty succesfull imo) was already rooted in it\'s hardware blueprints ; the cartridge system and hefty 3rd party license fees.


Yes, the business decisions that Nintendo made had an effect on their success.  The medium, the quality over quantity motiff, and their timing.

It proves that a once market leader (dominator) is hardly infallable, and, perhaps a greater lesson, to never underestimate the competition or overestimate your worth.

The N64 did enjoy success, but they\'ve lost even more market share since then.  The Gamecube has yet to sell half of what the N64 did in its lifetime (<20 million compared to N64\'s 45+ million).
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« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2005, 01:15:46 PM »
That\'s a frightening statistic if it\'s accurate, Rikku.

I optimistic about the Revolution, though.

I\'m hoping that the wave of nostalgia is reaching out to lots of gamers, and that means old Nintendo games.  Even today\'s young gamers will remember the popular N64 titles. And what if Sega throws some of its old games on the download service.

I\'m also predicting that gamers are getting bored with their PS2s and are ready to turn to Microsoft if they haven\'t already. If Microsoft provides more of the same, Nintendo could have that much more momentum.

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« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2005, 01:33:58 PM »
Well, Revolution is backwards compatible to the extreme. That\'s cool.

PS3 will be backwards compatible in about the same way PS2 is to PSone.

Xbox360 however, is a different story.

2nd generation Xbox 1 games will be playable on Xbox360 and it will require DL emulation software to make it work.

That means it\'ll cost the developer time and money to make their old Xbox 1 game work on the 360.
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« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2005, 01:55:44 PM »
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Xbox360 however, is a different story.

2nd generation Xbox 1 games will be playable on Xbox360 and it will require DL emulation software to make it work.

That means it\'ll cost the developer time and money to make their old Xbox 1 game work on the 360.


One, Xbox doesn\'t have as big of a classic library as Sony or Nintendo.  

Developers don\'t have to do anything to their Xbox games, nothing whatsoever.  The Xbox 360 will emulate Xbox for the most popular Xbox games.  If it can emulate those that are pulling the most graphic intensive loads (Halo 2, Conker, Ninja Gaiden, etc) then the less intensive titles shouldn\'t be a problem.  Or so J Allard says.

EDIT: I just got what you meant by 2nd generation Xbox games.   You mean games that come out for the Xbox after Xbox 360 is released.  In that case I agree with you, and I perceive it as a problem.  Not a big one though.
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