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XBOX360 A Dreamcast in Disguise
« on: August 05, 2005, 11:33:55 AM »
You decide for yourself, foucs on the packaging and controller.



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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2005, 12:33:08 PM »
if it launches with a dvd drive and a hd-dvd drive "down the road", it\'s gonna tank
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2005, 02:45:09 PM »
I have been saying it all the time but nobody wanted to see it ;

Xbox360 will be next gen\'s DC, but unlike the original Sega DC, Xbox360 won\'t die off so quickly and it\'ll have some succes too.

But indeed, like the DC, Xbox360 launches  very early and it has the \'weakest\' specs on paper.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2005, 03:47:17 PM »
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I have been saying it all the time but nobody wanted to see it ;

Xbox360 will be next gen\'s DC, but unlike the original Sega DC, Xbox360 won\'t die off so quickly and it\'ll have some succes too.

But indeed, like the DC, Xbox360 launches  very early and it has the \'weakest\' specs on paper.


Other than apperance and the launch, I don\'t see that.

We\'ll see tho\'. A lot of it will be if the games are quirky, something the DC rocked at.

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2005, 03:48:42 PM »
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I have been saying it all the time but nobody wanted to see it ;

Xbox360 will be next gen\'s DC, but unlike the original Sega DC, Xbox360 won\'t die off so quickly and it\'ll have some succes too.

But indeed, like the DC, Xbox360 launches  very early and it has the \'weakest\' specs on paper.


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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2005, 04:08:41 PM »
it\'s gonna sell a bunch, noone can deny that (not even me)

but the PS3 will eclipse it\'s sales in record time
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2005, 04:40:23 PM »
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pm me a copy of this paper


Sorry, can\'t do that. The \'paper\' is already on the internet, but the numbers are free to interpretation with next gen.

Like I said ; Xbox360 resembles DC\'s "push to market" model. In NO way i mean to say Xbox360 will be a failure.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2005, 05:26:50 PM »
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Funny how Rikku NVIDIA and QuDDus react when someone says PS3 is faster than Xbox 360

You would think somebody touched their eyeball

They are so hopelessly caught up in the idea that they will be playing the fastest,  if not equally fast console of the next generation this winter that they forget that any advantage PS3 has over XBOX 360 will most likely be minimal.  



Dream cast in desguise?  It resembles it, yes.  Neither design pops out at me though

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2005, 05:39:57 PM »
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Funny how Rikku NVIDIA and QuDDus react when someone says PS3 is faster than Xbox 360

You would think somebody touched their eyeball

They are so hopelessly caught up in the idea that they will be playing the fastest,  if not equally fast console of the next generation this winter that they forget that any advantage PS3 has over XBOX 360 will most likely be minimal.  



Dream cast in desguise?  It resembles it, yes.  Neither design pops out at me though



Nor does the PS3...None of the designs are "hot".

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2005, 08:49:12 PM »
Alliswell, I don\'t care about the horsepower of any of the new consoles.  I play games, thanks.  

Dreamcast and XBox360 have nothing in common.  The business models driving them or otherwise.  I haven\'t seen a comparative specs sheet that says PS3 is any times more powerful than Xbox 360 (not one from Sony or Microsoft themselves anyway).  The articles I have seen comparing the two technologies has indicated that they are two very different architectures and there is almost no point in comparing them.  Oh, and I think Nintendo already came out and said that the Revolution will not be as powerful as the 360 or PS3.  Just an FYI for your "weakest" console bit.  

Knotter, how can you seriously make the comment that Xbox 360 is coming in too early when PS3 is scheduled to launch a mere 4-5 months later, and the Revolution less than a year later?
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2005, 09:03:52 PM »
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You decide for yourself, foucs on the packaging and controller.




The green circles by themselves look nothing like an orange swirl.

The controller looks like a softer controller S than anything.  Yes, the colored buttons were on the original Xbox controller, the controller S, and now have been carried over to the 360 controller.

The similarities are the off-white color and the colored buttons on the controller.  We might as well call them twins.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2005, 11:28:47 PM »
Nah the controller was always like the Dreamcast\'s.The black color of the original S controller made you think otherwise :p

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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2005, 04:41:38 AM »
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Nah the controller was always like the Dreamcast\'s.The black color of the original S controller made you think otherwise :p


I know you are joking, but you\'ve displayed a bit of ignorance as well.  The Controller S is not the original Xbox controller.

The original controller was nothing like the DC\'s.  It was huge, black, with two analog sticks compared to the DC\'s one, eight face buttons compared to the DC\'s four, and not shaped like a hockey puck.  The controller S came along with the best of the original but made smaller, and the buttons moved arond to be a little more accessible.

Any comparison is nothing more than a desperate attempt to further the idea that the Xbox 360 and Dreamcast have anything in common and to suggest that Microsoft could befall the same fate.  It\'s a superficial comparison, and made on false pretenses.  Anyone who genuinely thinks that there are grounds for comparison needs to read up on Sega\'s history in all its entirety, and then simply read up on Microsoft\'s current position.  This will, in effect, stop you from displaying any more ignorance regarding the subject.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2005, 05:00:59 AM »
I hope you guys didn\'t take my post at heart. I was being a bit facetious with it. XBOX360 certainly is no dreamcast but The packaging and controller does somewhat remind me of the beloved DC.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2005, 05:26:17 AM »
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grounds for comparison needs to read up on Sega\'s history in all its entirety, and then simply read up on Microsoft\'s current position.  


Well, you have to admit that MS, like Sega back then, tries to get the console to market way earlier than Sony\'s console to \'steal\' any possible future PS3 momentum.

Like DC, Xbox360 devkits already receive lotsa love from Japanese game developers.

The starting point is different though ;

- Sega was a big name in decline trying to come back succesfully, indeed one last time.

- MS was the newcomer who established itself pretty well, so it\'s a way more solid base than Sega\'s back in 1999/2000

- Sega was generally \'known\' as bad at biz decisions

- MS is generally \'known\' as succesfull at biz decisions

Of course, I won\'t make any literal comparisons but Xbox360 might become the fairly succesfull \'DC\' of tomorrow.
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