IM BACK and a update

[clips]

if god really exist, then he shouldn\'t force people to believe in him, except that to let people live freely just as long as they don\'t hurt themselves or other.

so, if god does really exist and he punish people simply because they don\'t believe in him.  Then that\'s lame.  As long as they don\'t do anything mean or cruel or whatever, why punish them?  it\'s not a crime if you don\'t go to church, just as long as you have a good heart.  why bother going to church?  Just so you can "believe" in him and donate money to earn his trust?  what kind of god is that?

Nevermind...hopefully i didn\'t say anything bad...*me runs and hide*

who said anything about forcing you to believe in him?..you have your own free will to believe in him,..it\'s the people or extremists that try to force it on you...for those that do not believe in him, but have a good heart, i believe that they will know the truth when the time is right,..that\'s just what i think tho...i go to church,..but not because i\'m bein forced, but because i want to go and try to learn more about him...but you can\'t put all of your faith into the preist,..it kills me how people are devastated when they find out the preacher is gay,..or he\'s done something unheard of,...these people are only human,...and i don\'t understand why so many follow the pope like he\'s sometype of prophet...people actually pass out when they meet him :rolleyes:

but i guess the best way to learn about him is not to let somebody else tell you,..just grab a bible and read it from front to back...

[Paul2]

but i guess the best way to learn about him is not to let somebody else tell you,..just grab a bible and read it from front to back...

i hope you are being sarcastic there on that last line.  As if the bible wasn\'t written by human beings...

[clips]

i hope you are being sarcastic there on that last line.  As if the bible wasn\'t written by human beings...

of course it was written buy human beings,...but the bible just isn\'t studied buy ONE group of people, it\'s known and read by people of all ethnic groups so chances of one group corrupting the book itself remains very small,...even tho the bible has been re-written many times by having various versions(many are just updated so that we can comprehend the reading better) for the most part the bible has remained the same for hundreds of years now.

[Titan]

There have also been numerous mistranslations too.

Yes there have been many translations, you just need to find the one that is right for you. I have a niv which i use and just happens to be the first bible i have ever had, i also have a king james version and most recently picked up the nasb, which is as close to the original langauge as you can get. So the gist of it is this find the version, which works best for you.

[Evi]

There have also been numerous mistranslations too.

The original language is unchanged. There are scholars that copy the original letter-by-letter. If it\'s one letter off, they throw the entire copy away. It hasn\'t been re-written a thousand times if that\'s what you\'re implying. The original remains unchanged.

im not implying anything, i said simply find a version which works for you jeepers

[Evi]

im not implying anything, i said simply find a version which works for you jeepers

Um...I was talking to Titan. :running:

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Sorry, Did Not Realize That

[Evi]

It\'s all good.

[Titan]

The original language is unchanged. There are scholars that copy the original letter-by-letter. If it\'s one letter off, they throw the entire copy away. It hasn\'t been re-written a thousand times if that\'s what you\'re implying. The original remains unchanged.

No I mean its been mistranslated from the original language to say French, English, etc.

[Evi]

No I mean its been mistranslated from the original language to say French, English, etc.

It isn\'t "mistranslated" to some horrible proportion. It is just not accurately translated in that...there are some words in Greek and Hebrew that there aren\'t any English words for. Which is why it\'s good to reference both.

[Titan]

It isn\'t "mistranslated" to some horrible proportion. It is just not accurately translated in that...there are some words in Greek and Hebrew that there aren\'t any English words for. Which is why it\'s good to reference both.

Yeah, that would be a mistranslation. I\'m not saying the entire bible has been mistranslated. I\'m saying there are some mistranlsations like words and shit. It happens in all literature. I\'m not saying I don\'t believe in it because of that. I think one example is the Red Sea. It was mistranslated from the Hebrew which was supposed to be the Reed Sea. I dunno, something to google.

EDIT: Here is something from wikipedia

There is also speculation that the name Red Sea came from a mistranslation of what should have been the Reed Sea in the Biblical story of the Exodus. The Sea of Reeds (in Hebrew Yâm-Sûph) is often mistranslated as the "Red Sea".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sea
Believe it if you want.

[Evi]

Yeah, that would be a mistranslation. I\'m not saying the entire bible has been mistranslated. I\'m saying there are some mistranlsations like words and shit. It happens in all literature. I\'m not saying I don\'t believe in it because of that. I think one example is the Red Sea. It was mistranslated from the Hebrew which was supposed to be the Reed Sea. I dunno, something to google.

Which is why it\'s always good to reference the original text. The Old Testament is in Hebrew and the New Testament is in Greek.

[Titan]

Which is why it\'s always good to reference the original text. The Old Testament is in Hebrew and the New Testament is in Greek.

I know. I was just saying when translating it to other languages is where you could run into some potential problems.