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« Reply #105 on: May 09, 2006, 06:15:21 AM »
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« Reply #106 on: May 09, 2006, 06:17:49 AM »
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« Reply #107 on: May 09, 2006, 06:17:55 AM »
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I thought Xbox was overpriced... This makes Xbox 360 look like a deal.
 
In fairness, the PS3 controller is more than GameBoy tilt sensor. The tilt sensor worked from left to right and basically sucked. The PS3 controller can also sense back and forth, up and down.
 
Of course, the Wii controller can sense 360 degrees in full 3D, sense depth, sense speed, sense physical orientation and be used like a laser pointer/light gun. It even knows how far from the tv you are.  They can program it so you can\'t "cheat" in shooting games like we all did playing Duck Hunt. :)
 
Sony recognized Nintendo\'s good idea and cashed in on it as effectively as they could between Boomerang and DualShock 3. (Minus the Shock.)

Well personally after seeing all these videos, I cant go to 360.

 The animation, art direction and physics in the PS3 trailers have sold me out

 360 can add lots of visual detail but atleast for me the games I ve seen so far on it were like current gen games with a next gen dressing (texture detail, high resolution, normal mapping, high polycounts, better reflections) and thats it. Some would say I ve seen just the first gen games.

 But on the PS3 they showed games that are on par if not better to forthcoming 360 games.
 
 Ofcourse they were just trailers they are still far from completion, no review yet thus living lots of room for disspointment but I wasnt impressed with 360\'s games when they were first shown.
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« Reply #108 on: May 09, 2006, 06:48:58 AM »
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I don\'t care what you come up with, there is no way $600 is any kind of value. People mocked the Xbox 360 for it\'s outrageous price tag, so what\'s the big difference? Blu-Ray? A HD? You\'re willing to pay out the ass for those two things?

PS 2.5, Eik nailed it. It\'ll have plenty of sequels that feature nothing but improved graphics, if that is what you want, fine, but I for one am tired of the endless sequels with no marked improvements other than graphics. That\'s the main reason I never picked up a PSP and it\'ll be the reason that I won\'t pick up a PS3.







How can you call PS3 PS 2.5?  Heres a list of things they added over the PS2:

-hard drive
-high storage blu-ray discs
-High def movie playback
-true high def gaming playback unlike PS2
-Online service
-the BEST next gen graphics
-controller motion sensor

All of these things it did not have last gen.  Tell me,  does the nintendo Wii or xbox 360 improve this much over the original system?  If the PS3 is the PS 2.5,  Then the xbox 360 is the xbox 1.1 and the wii is the Nintendo GC 1.4

You prefer the Nintendo Wii over the PS3 and XBOX360.  Please do not try and tear down anybody who prefers the PS3 or the XBOX360.  You look foolish.  This thing with PS3 having non original games is very painful to listen to,  considering your console is the Nintendo Wii,  which will boasts 10 mario parties,  3 each of mario tennis,  golf, baskeball, baseball etc,  10+  Zeldas,  and 5 pikemns.  Wow,  the reason why I may not get a Nintendo Wii on launch is because of the reason you hate PS3 so much,  millions of sequels and no originality.

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I don\'t care what you come up with, there is no way $600 is any kind of value. People mocked the Xbox 360 for it\'s outrageous price tag, so what\'s the big difference? Blu-Ray? A HD? You\'re willing to pay out the ass for those two things?


Ken Kutarargi said it would be expensive.  It\'s not for everyone.  I went out and bought a $1500 HD monitor for HD entertainment,  and PS3 is the only console that will use it to the fullest not only with games but also with Movies.  So now I can watch High Definition games and movies.  Is it worth $200 more than a Xbox 360 for High def games and movies?  IMO, yes.  In your opinion no,  but thats you. Get off our backs about our opinions.  $600 may not be a value to you,  but to HD guys getting a console that can play games and HD movies for $600 IS  a value.  Or would you rather have Sony cut back their technology ala Xbox 360 and not include the Blu-ray player to keep it at $400?  Sony crammed everything they could into the PS3,  and I\'m thankful for that.  I\'m willing to pay $600.  Do you poke fun at those who spend $600 on the latest NVIDIA graphics card?

And I dont care about its sells.  I\'m getting one and Sony will be fine.  Sony is thinking about more than the \'console war\'.  They have a format war going on with HD-DVD,  and they will sell their console at any price to get BLU-RAY out there

thats why there is 3 consoles
choose what you like the best
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« Reply #109 on: May 09, 2006, 07:43:34 AM »
The next PlayStation will offer everything you\'ve seen this generation all over again with nicer graphics. That\'s where I was going with that nickname.
 
But don\'t take it too personally. With Final Fantasy 13, Virtua Fighter 5 and Metal Gear Solid 4 looking as great as they do and assuming they\'ll have some gameplay to match, it will be a system worth owning, if you have a grand to spend and aren\'t sick of those franchises.
 
For content, the exclusivity deals seem to be lining up right where they did last gen, with the only difference being that this time, Nintendo is offering something unique with its portion.
 
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/and yes, I never looked into graphics card prices but if you paid $600 just for the graphics... well... can I borrow twenty bucks?
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« Reply #110 on: May 09, 2006, 07:53:54 AM »
Hm, OK, I see now.

  the problem is I see all consoles and even movies are heading that direction,  and I don\'t like it.  Before it was just 2 or 3 behind the title of a game, now I\'m seeing 5, 6 and yes,  even a 7.....

No I never paid $600 for graphics,  but all the time I see people doing so in Console discussion and elsewhere,  and they are like \'cool\'.  But when it comes to buying a console that does so much more for $600 they throw a fit.  I looked at it and said,  I wouldnt spend that much on a graphics card.  But if they want to spend that much,  thats fine.  thats them.
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« Reply #111 on: May 09, 2006, 08:11:09 AM »
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Before it was just 2 or 3 behind the title of a game, now I\'m seeing 5, 6 and yes, even a 13......

Fixed that for you. ;]
 
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« Reply #112 on: May 09, 2006, 08:12:18 AM »
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« Reply #113 on: May 09, 2006, 08:20:46 AM »
come launch date, none of the millions of people buying a PS3 will complain about the price, just the availablity.
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« Reply #114 on: May 09, 2006, 08:46:38 AM »
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Fixed that for you. ;]
 
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I dont mind the number next to a Final Fantasy.

They arent real sequels anyways

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« Reply #115 on: May 09, 2006, 09:07:24 AM »
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Tell me, does the nintendo Wii or xbox 360 improve this much over the original system? If the PS3 is the PS 2.5, Then the xbox 360 is the xbox 1.1 and the wii is the Nintendo GC 1.4


Uh..
You lost any crediablity with that sentence.
What does the Wii offer that no other system offers? Yeah.............. Move aside, troll.

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Ken Kutarargi said it would be expensive. It\'s not for everyone. I went out and bought a $1500 HD monitor for HD entertainment, and PS3 is the only console that will use it to the fullest not only with games but also with Movies. So now I can watch High Definition games and movies. Is it worth $200 more than a Xbox 360 for High def games and movies? IMO, yes. In your opinion no, but thats you. Get off our backs about our opinions. $600 may not be a value to you, but to HD guys getting a console that can play games and HD movies for $600 IS a value. Or would you rather have Sony cut back their technology ala Xbox 360 and not include the Blu-ray player to keep it at $400? Sony crammed everything they could into the PS3, and I\'m thankful for that. I\'m willing to pay $600. Do you poke fun at those who spend $600 on the latest NVIDIA


Yes, yes I do make fun of those people.


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-hard drive
-high storage blu-ray discs
-High def movie playback
-true high def gaming playback unlike PS2
-Online service
-the BEST next gen graphics
-controller motion sensor


Everything you listed, minus Blu-Ray has been done before. Big whoopie. And the best next generation graphics can\'t be proven. Get into the second and third generation of games and then let\'s talk about which system has the best graphics, because first generation games are not worth even debating over.

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This thing with PS3 having non original games is very painful to listen to, considering your console is the Nintendo Wii, which will boasts 10 mario parties, 3 each of mario tennis, golf, baskeball, baseball etc, 10+ Zeldas, and 5 pikemns. Wow, the reason why I may not get a Nintendo Wii on launch is because of the reason you hate PS3 so much, millions of sequels and no originality


Null and void argument. First off, you make up insane numbers such as 10 Zelda titles and five pikimin titles. Hell, we was LUCKY to get two Pikimin titles this generation, so quit talking out of your ass. Not only that, the point is not sequels are bad - the point is the sequels are not offering anything other than improved graphics. At least with the Wii, developers are going to be forced to come up with original concepts on these tired and true franchises. So, once again, you have no point.

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The next PlayStation will offer everything you\'ve seen this generation all over again with nicer graphics. That\'s where I was going with that nickname


Exactly and if that is what someone wants, more power to them. I, however, am tired of the same mindless sequels we are see\'ing and I refuse to pay almost $800 (system , memory stick, controllers) for a system to play those tired sequels.

And for the whole the Wii controller is a gimmick and what not - I still remember all the slack Nintendo got for the N64 controller and guess what? It turned out to be a fairly decent controller (minus those god-forsaken \'C\' buttons).. The DS? Everyone said it was a gimmick, turned out to be a damn good portable system.


Oh and just to look back...........

Nintendo adds shoulder buttons to SNES control pad.

Sony adds two sets of shoulder buttons.

Nintendo debuts analog controller.

Sony adds two analog controllers.

Nintendo debuts the "rumble pack".

Sony adds rumble and dubs it \'dual shock\'.

Nintendo makes tilt cartridges and a Wii controller. The "Wiimote" even has rumble.

Sony redesigns controller altogether, takes the rumble out and throws in motion detection.

Yeah.......
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« Reply #116 on: May 09, 2006, 09:21:39 AM »
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Uh..
You lost any crediablity with that sentence.
What does the Wii offer that no other system offers? Yeah.............. Move aside, troll.


Pop quiz hot shot,  how is the PS3 the PS 2.5 and the XBOX 360 not xbox 1.5?  Sony has also said they will allow PS1 and 2 games to be downloaded,  and they have a stupid motion controller like the Wii.  Now what does the Wii have that the PS3 doesnt?

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Everything you listed, minus Blu-Ray has been done before. Big whoopie. And the best next generation graphics can\'t be proven. Get into the second and third generation of games and then let\'s talk about which system has the best graphics, because first generation games are not worth even debating over.


I dont give a flip if its been done before.  IT HASNT been done on the PS2.  Thats the point genius


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Null and void argument. First off, you make up insane numbers such as 10 Zelda titles and five pikimin titles. Hell, we was LUCKY to get two Pikimin titles this generation, so quit talking out of your ass. Not only that, the point is not sequels are bad - the point is the sequels are not offering anything other than improved graphics. At least with the Wii, developers are going to be forced to come up with original concepts on these tired and true franchises. So, once again, you have no point.


Original concepts?  How so?  With the Wii\'s controller?  Not enough orginality if you ask me


So what if Sony copys Nintendo.  I couldn\'t care less

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« Reply #117 on: May 09, 2006, 09:25:44 AM »
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Pop quiz hot shot,  how is the PS3 the PS 2.5 and the XBOX 360 not xbox 1.5?  Sony has also said they will allow PS1 and 2 games to be downloaded,  and they have a stupid motion controller like the Wii.  Now what does the Wii have that the PS3 doesnt?



I dont give a flip if its been done before.  IT HASNT been done on the PS2.  Thats the point genius




Original concepts?  How so?  With the Wii\'s controller?  Not enough orginality if you ask me


So what if Sony copys Nintendo.  I couldn\'t care less


Never said the 360 wasn\'t the 1.5. Don\'t own one and won\'t own one. It, like the PS3, is to expensive for a gaming machine that will offer better graphics and more uninspired sequels.


And they don\'t have a "stupid motion controller". It\'s a slighty more advanced version of the friggin\' GAMEBOY ADVANCES cartridges. Get your facts straight, then get back to us.

You have no argument.. The Wii controller will force developers to do different things with franchises - that is the whole point.

Do you even think before you post? At least Unicorn would of had ONE valid point, you can\'t even manage to get that.

Oh and I don\'t care if you care that they steal idea\'s from Nintendo. I was just pointing out that Sony doesn\'t actually do anything original for the industry, instead, they wait for another company to do it and then do it half-ass (for the most part).

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« Reply #118 on: May 09, 2006, 09:26:32 AM »
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Everything you listed, minus Blu-Ray has been done before. Big whoopie.

he listed upgrades over the PS2, competely destroying your point.
nice backpedal tho
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« Reply #119 on: May 09, 2006, 09:28:03 AM »
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he listed upgrades over the PS2, competely destroying your point.
nice backpedal tho


No it doesn\'t. The whole point is all they done was added a bunch of stuff that othe companies done this generation. Add some extra stuff, improve the graphcis and throw a big \'3\' on the end of the Playstation logo. All that stuff added, how will it benefit the games other than storage space? It won\'t, for the most part. It\'s obvious the motion sensor was out of desperation. Blu-Ray is nothing more than a way to win the movie format war. Online service? MS done this last generation. Hard drive? Yeah, MS done that LAST GENERATION (and I recall some of you mocking them for it).  

Shame when you are so blind that you can\'t realize the basic things. To think, you use to be cynical and take everything fed to you by the Sony hype machine.


Like I\'ve said, time and time again, it comes down to what you want out of a next generation console. Do you want movie playback and pretty graphics? Or do you want something different? I want the latter. I\'d consider a PS3 at $400, but anything above that and it doesn\'t offer any value for me.
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