the hit sony is takin on ps3...

I wish I could be there the exact moment when MM feels like a fool for paying out the ass for a system that offers nothing but enhanced graphics over the last generation..Oh and it plays movies!

:rolleyes:

You jumped to conclusions already before the console is out?

Uni, you\'re jumping to conclusions too, they\'re just more optimistic. ;]

And that improves the game, how? You get better sound and better graphics. You ignore the gameplay completely. Typical of the people who are all about the PS3.

Well, to the contrary. I suggested one possible means of having non or less repitive sound samples in a game.

Repetitive npc text in single player games is still in most current gen games and it\'s kind of annoying to my gameplay experience.

Spoken text cannot, convincingly, be generated by some fancy algorithm like procedural textures ;

So, yeah, more storage could definately help my gameplay experience here.

People might argue "ow.. but it\'s small stuff, not such a big deal" . They forget however, that masterpieces shine, by means of a collective of smaller & subtle, contributing factors.

Of course, people who don\'t like games with spoken text or realistic premise probably care less about such things ; but that\'s such a narrow minded viewpoint.

Am I the only one who buys a system to play games and not movies?

No, you are not. I am right there with you. I\'ll buy a movie player that I want when I want. I don\'t want my high end DVD/Blue Ray etc in my game system.

I\'d rather spend a grand on a game system that used all of that money to make the games even better.

Anyway, continue on.

so people are paying 600$ for better graphics, the Blu-ray drive is a bonus.  GG lic.

Uni, you\'re jumping to conclusions too, they\'re just more optimistic. ;]

Guesses and estimations arent exactly absolute conclusions and I am not using them as absolute facts either

so people are paying 600$ for better graphics, the Blu-ray drive is a bonus.  GG lic.

BD movie playback is a bonus, yep.

Blu-Ray is an essential part of the system, not as a movie format but as a games storage format. Several developers are already saying they are limited by the DVD (~7GB of storage) format in the 360. Epic, Starbreeze, Rockstar etc have been pretty vocal on this point.

With Blu-Ray, games can be released as a global SKU, one version for the whole world (this is what Insomniac is doing with Resistance), this will save developers money. This is possible thanks to the extra storage, voices and text in different languages can be saved on the same disc.
Very good for European customers, no need to wait 6 extra months for a game release.

Shorter load times: Since certain data can be duplicated several times on the Blu-Ray disc so the seek times can be lowered. Another bonus for the PS3 is since it now has a HDD as standard games can take advantage of this to cache files to the HDD, lowering load times even more.

Among other things.

So yes, I would pay extra for the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3. Movie playback is only a bonus for me, which I of course will take advantage of.

With Blu-Ray, games can be released as a global SKU, one version for the whole world (this is what Insomniac is doing with Resistance), this will save developers money. This is possible thanks to the extra storage, voices and text in different languages can be saved on the same disc.
Very good for European customers, no need to wait 6 extra months for a game release.

Shorter load times: Since certain data can be duplicated several times on the Blu-Ray disc so the seek times can be lowered. Another bonus for the PS3 is since it now has a HDD as standard games can take advantage of this to cache files to the HDD, lowering load times even more.

Those are good arguments. Of course, it remains to be seen whether they will hold true...