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Offline SirMystiq

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« on: June 06, 2006, 11:44:42 PM »
As the good liberal I am. I went to go see An Inconvinient Truth.

Sure, alot of that the movie talked about I already knew but I just like to go and hear and see the reactions of others.

What do you all think?

Is global warming real or not?

Is our President a puppet?
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2006, 01:24:29 AM »
of course global warming is real..theres a hole the size of a continent in our ozone layer. dont have to be a liberal to realize that.

As to if its affecting us, we cant tell yet. The earth goes through periods of being hot/cold, so theres obviously the chance that we\'re going through a period of heat that is making the changes noticeable, or it is global warming that is making doing it...well only know in hindsight. All we can do is try to cut down our affect, but it will only slow it down. Like a lot of scientists believe (and i do to), humans will cause the next great extinction. Maybe not for a while but were obviously having an affect on nature.

i didnt see the movie, and dont plan on it, so im going to guess 50% of people say the presidents a puppet and 45% say he isnt. Im part of the 5% that says everyones stupid, including myself.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2006, 03:27:27 AM »
global warming is real but there is NO need for a panic, or even a large concern.

we\'re doing far less damage then we were 50, or even a 100 years ago
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2006, 03:31:40 AM »
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Who is this anamoly we call Jumpman? How is he able to do what he does and still survive after years of torment? It seems he feeds on the hate, growing with an intense passion to put unassuming members in their place.

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2006, 04:19:27 AM »
i saw on either the science channel, or the discovery channel that ultimately over time the atmosphere repairs itself over this issue. they made it seem as if global warning was not as big an issue as some believe. i honestly don\'t worry about it cause honestly, there\'s nothing we can do about it. The one thing i do remember when i was living in jersey is that former gov. whitman at the time issued that all or most major companies that you see with smoke comin out of their huge tubular stacks, that they apply these giant filters to cut down on pollution,...if you go down 1 & 9 south by the newark airport, i think that budweiser brewery was one of the first companies to implement it. she would also threaten huge fines to companies that didn\'t comply...


it\'s kinda weird down here tho,..some parts of georgia have vehicle inspections, while others don\'t...:confused:..i just happen to be in the part that doesn\'t have them.:fro:...if you live close or in the city of atlanta you have to have inspections....
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2006, 05:38:37 AM »
Global warming? Who knows. One thing is for sure, I\'ll be dead before it\'ll matter either way so I\'m just gonna chill. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2006, 06:10:57 AM »
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global warming is real but there is NO need for a panic, or even a large concern.

we\'re doing far less damage then we were 50, or even a 100 years ago
That is wishful thinking with no basis in reality.  The film presents data that clearly shows that the planet is much worse off with regard to greenhouse gases and global temperatures than it has ever been in the last 600,000 years.  Even if you look at a narrow slice of time like the last 50-100 years, the quantity of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has been climbing continuously throughout that entire period.  It has NOT been improving.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2006, 06:32:48 AM »
it\'s a shame that have to do this, but....

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2006, 07:19:05 AM »
yeah cause all these scientists have alterior motives and sinister agendas...
Who is this anamoly we call Jumpman? How is he able to do what he does and still survive after years of torment? It seems he feeds on the hate, growing with an intense passion to put unassuming members in their place.

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2006, 07:32:58 AM »
actually....they do
who do you think funds thier "research"

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2006, 08:11:55 AM »
Global warming is an issue as long as it\'s ignored.  The Earth self regulates fairly well (CO2 sinks, many of which multiply rapidly with increased GH gasses), but with our size and technology if people all over the world just consume and destroy, then the world won\'t be able to keep up.  Things are getting better, but until a much more planet-friendly solution to transportation than oil is popularized, GW will remain an issue.

The problem is we cause a bit of trouble all over the place, less forests, more driving, higher population, increased agriculture (cows), etc, etc.

Earth is slow in it\'s responses:
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Pre-human global warming

It is thought by some geologists that the Earth experienced global warming in the early Jurassic period, with average temperatures rising by 5 °C. Research by the Open University published in Geology (32: 157–160, 2004 [57]) indicates that this caused the rate of rock weathering to increase by 400%. Rock weathering locks away carbon in calcite and dolomite, which are minerals with various degrees of carbon oxides. As a result of this, carbon dioxide levels dropped back to normal over roughly the next 150,000 years.


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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2006, 09:00:22 AM »
I think our affect on the planet has more to do with the quality of air in concentrated areas than affecting the temperature of the entire planet.

Do you think if everyone drove hydrogen vehicles for 5 years and factories were turned off that we\'d see changes in climate?  I don\'t think so.

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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2006, 09:03:28 AM »
certainly not in 5 years

50 years, 500?
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2006, 09:22:13 AM »
Good point, but to quote the great ex-DC Mayor Marion Barry:

"Nobody know."

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2006, 09:57:58 AM »
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I think our affect on the planet has more to do with the quality of air in concentrated areas than affecting the temperature of the entire planet.

Do you think if everyone drove hydrogen vehicles for 5 years and factories were turned off that we\'d see changes in climate?  I don\'t think so.



I highly doubt the movie is propaganda. Why would environmentalist do if stricter laws on pollution passed?! How will they benefit?

The ones to gain are the big corporations. Our past Enviromental chair in the government went to work for Exxon after he was fired for "editing" a memo about global warming...

And we will NOT be dead when hell breaks lose. They estimate about 10 years if the patter continues. And YOU CAN affect the environment. In the movie, there is a scene where scientist are able to tell the temperature of ice by looking at trapped Oxygen molecules. The year the US passed a law to minimize pollution...you could clearly see the drop in temperature(still above normal) in the ice!

And this is not the "normal cycle" A cycle goes up and down...we are just going up...
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