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« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2006, 03:10:02 AM »
That thing about Smackdown, that was just a badly developed title. And they were getting into story mode in that video which included the unfortunate loading of a few extra cutscenes before the game could begin.
 
I do remember some load time problems, but nothing too bad and I played through a handful of the early titles.
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« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2006, 05:03:29 AM »
oh LIC could find games to play, he\'s just being a dick about it.
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« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2006, 05:38:39 AM »
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Currently playing Tekken Resurrection, Fight Night round 3, Midnight Club 3 Dub Edition, Pinball Hall of fame, World Snooker Challange 2005, burnout legends and DBZ Shin budokai. Plenty of games to keep me entertained.


I own the PSP too, and it\'s not that it doesn\'t have any quality games. Notice that all of the games you listed are basically PS2 ports, and not as complete as their PS2 counterparts. Probably more expensive. There is a big market for playing current-gen games on the road, but the DS (and PS2/XB/GCN for that matter) are cheaper in every facet... and the DS provides a lot more handheld-specific and innovative software. It also plays a lot more games (GBA and DS libraries) without sneaking behind Sony\'s back.

Thankfully, devs are learning. Games like Field Commander and Loco Roco provide a fresh experience even for PS2 vets.

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Then theres the whole "homebrew" emulators for Snes, Megadrive, neogeo games etc. Psp just offers far more then DS. Sony may or may not want it to offer this, but it still does. I even use it at school, acts like a great PDA. ohh and LIC, you have no clue, as sony releases new firmware doesn\'t mean u have to update. It simply means games follow suit, then people develope ways around these games wanting higher firmwares.


Yes, the homebrew is better on the PSP... but Sony is trying to squash it. I need a complicated workaround so that I can play the latest PSP games as well as old Nintendo and Sega games. I\'d like Irony for $400, Alex.

A great PDA? DS has a touchscreen/stylus, and (so far, just in Japan) PDA software. PSP might have some PDA-like qualities, but time is running out! I\'d be surprised if the upcoming Opera browser release isn\'t followed by a PDA suite. Nintendo is trying to engage the adult audience, and there\'s no better way.

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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2006, 09:42:16 AM »
There\'s a game called like GME PXL or something coming for PSP. It\'s a Wario Ware knock off with a trendy facelift. Could be a very good game for the PSP.
 
Lumines was fun, although the upcoming sequel is pretty much the same game with a different coat of paint.
 
The developers are creative and should have come up with a new ip instead, in my opinion.
 
It\'s an ok handheld, but for every game I might possibly want to try, there are two more on the DS, and they\'re cheaper.
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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2006, 09:58:09 AM »
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It\'s a Wario Ware knock off

Strike one.

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the upcoming sequel is pretty much the same game with a different coat of paint

Strike two. Lumines is coming to XBLA (or has already come) so let\'s call that a foul, out of play. 0-2

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or every game I might possibly want to try, there are two more on the DS, and they\'re cheaper

Strike three. DS gets the PSP swinging at a changeup in the dirt. PSP follows N-Gage to the dugout. 2 outs.

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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2006, 10:00:12 AM »
Some quotes about UMD from mm:

From THIS thread.

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waste because you think it is?

not that versatile?
it certainly beats carrying around one of those lame 400$ portable DVD players.

stripped down? who\'s going to listen to director commentaries on the bus into town?

UMD\'s are a success any way we look at it


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they are selling a ton of UMD\'s and even sony was suprised at its success.

remember, sales = king?

tiny ass screen?
have you even touched one?

you are failing to recognize the portability factor.

i didnt realize that normal dvd\'s come in a nice protective shell, and fit nicely in a pocket.


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"all about the games" is dead

convergence is in
just look at cell phones

i bought my PSP to play games, listen to mp3\'s, and watch movies. ergo, versatility.

DS = toy
sorry you didn\'t get the memo, pal


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you don\'t have to bother with the UMD format, a hell of alot of other people already are.


From THIS thread.

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taking the PSP on the bus is so much cooler than those 6" portable DVD players


From THIS thread.

Someone else\'s quote: "Blu-Ray = stupid. Just like UMD."
mm\'s response:
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you can\'t possibly be this ignorant


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UMD\'s rock, don\'t know why you\'re so biased all of a sudden


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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2006, 10:23:17 AM »
Heh I got a kick out of that.
 
Blade, just because it\'s a Wario Ware knockoff doesn\'t mean it won\'t be a good PSP game.
 
Not sure what XBLA is either... But Lumines is one of the best things on PSP, in my opinion.
 
I agree with the DS\'s overall superiority, not in power, but in worth. In value. In gameplay and in fun.
 
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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2006, 10:34:25 AM »
BS has a lot of time on his hands.

Eik: I agree on all points. I\'m just saying that regardless of what PSP does right on the game front, it usually ends up being a derivative of a potent Nintendo idea. Usually derivatives suck. Hopefully this WW-type game for PSP will be good, because I\'m this close to selling mine. Loco Roco is keeping it away from the used rack at my local EB Games.

XBLA = Xbox Live Arcade for Xbox 360. So, yes, you can get Lumines if you have an Xbox 360. It\'s not portable, but it\'s legal and cheap. I bought Lumines as my sole PSP game when I bought the system. I love it too.
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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2006, 10:47:24 AM »
Oh Live Arcade, yeah I had read that. That\'ll be a nice fit alongside some of the other Arcade games. I have Hex-something or other. Geometry Wars.
 
It\'s a nice feature. Nintendo says it has a handful of original games instore for its virtual console besides just the BC stuff.  Should be fun.
 
I hope bit Generations makes it to American shelves for GBA or to a VC/XBLA type deal.
 
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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2006, 01:18:15 PM »
@ mm

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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2006, 02:09:34 PM »
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oh LIC could find games to play, he\'s just being a dick about it.

Only dick around here is you with your stuck up opinion that "sopishcated gamers" play the PSP.



Oh and..

Good job there BS - I didn\'t have time to look up all those quotes.
Doesn\'t matter tho\', MM will try to spin doctor his way out of every single quote.

And Blade nailed my point home, almost every "quality" game listed is nothing more than a stripped down port. Nothing more. And a lot of those still suffer from control issues, like the Tomb Raider that was mentioned. Come on, that just reaks of naming any big title on the PSP, not naming QUALITY titles.
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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2006, 02:45:00 PM »
I bet MM has egg on his face now. But like LIC said, he will try to find a way to get around it and not look stupid, thats just the way he is. Now I will wait for MM to insult me like always.
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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2006, 03:16:41 PM »
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BS has a lot of time on his hands.
Damn you for pulling me out of hiding to defend my honor.

That was just a quick UMD/mm search with "Display by post" checked off. No more than 2-3 minutes. Procrastination tends to make me do anything to waste time no matter how ridiculous. All right, sweety?

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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2006, 04:12:47 PM »
so DS titles arent ports of N64 games? :confused:
(especially in the graphics department)

i never hyped UMD as a movie format.  i said it was way too expensive to succeed.
do i like UMD\'s as a movie format?  sure, i can take one on the bus into work, watch half the movie on the way in, and finish it on the way home.
i like them ever more now that they will be cheaper very soon.
now UMD\'s as a game format?  entirely different animal.   carts = crippled.

and nice try, tho.  really, BS.  perhaps next time, you\'ll find the quotes that support me and not parts that contradict me.  you have a bright future ahead of you at FOX news.
the rest of the scamps love it tho, so im pleased.

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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2006, 04:48:45 PM »
We should hang out sometime, BS. Go out looking for cheap women by Boston Common or something.

Maybe we could do a search for timeless mm quotes and use them on said girls. I\'m sure that there are out of 14,640+ posts, he\'s gotta have some damned good pickup lines. You do the forum search and I\'ll continue sucking down this Tequila Sunrise.

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so DS titles arent ports of N64 games?

It was a matter of time before somebody pulled this one out. Now, I know that you were probably joking Mike, but I\'m going to answer it anyway.

What the solicitors of this argument always fail to mention (or realize) is that just because the DS\' CPU/GPU are only marginally better than N64\'s (and don\'t support interpolation) doesn\'t mean that it\'s gotten nothing but ports. The GBA has gotten way more straight ports in 5 years than DS or even PSP ever will. It\'s also the single biggest selling console ever (last I checked) so clearly the ports were a good idea.

The only major title (7.0 or greater from IGN) that I can single out as an N64 port is SM64DS. A launch title in one of the weakest launches ever. (IMO)

Otherwise, the closest thing in my 16-game DS library to a N64 port is... Animal Crossing: Wild World? Of course, it\'s vastly improved over Animal Forest and Animal Forest never came out in the US anyway.

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