Microsoft HD-DVD 360 player and console for $900??

he\'s saying no HDTV is properly calibrated, and you must spend 100$ on a calibration problem or you\'re lame and probably wasted 1500$ when that 13" B&W jobbie in grandma\'s room was perfectly fine.

i\'m saying the difference is nominal at best, adjust the sliders till the picture suits you, and have a nice day.

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he\'s saying no HDTV is properly calibrated, and you must spend 100$ on a calibration problem or you\'re lame and probably wasted 1500$ when that 13" B&W jobbie in grandma\'s room was perfectly fine.

i\'m saying the difference is nominal at best, adjust the sliders till the picture suits you, and have a nice day.

And I\'m saying that the difference is big, with a properly calibrated TV and that you, have ZERO clue what you\'re talking about...as usual.

It makes no sense to buy into the HD format and not have your TV calibrated to it\'s best settings. Zero sense at all.

adjust the sliders till the picture suits you, and have a nice day

This is still the jist of what you\'re trying to say tho LIC, right?

well, no.

it has to be the complete opposite of what i say, always.

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This is still the jist of what you\'re trying to say tho LIC, right?

No. A true calibration will have color tempature, black level and what not. Not just your usual sharpness / brightness.

Lets make things simple.  With current techs, on a scale of 1 to 10 (one being  crap and ten being best quality available) the quality would be something like:

Super 8 = 2
Calibrated Super 8 = 2.2
vhs on standard tv = 4
DVD on standard tv = 5
DVD on calibrated tv = 5.5
HD format on HDTV = 9
HD format on HDTV quick calibrated = 9.5
HD format on fully calibrated HDTV theatre system = 10

Calibration slightly improves the viewing experience, but the basic format/viewing method is going to have a much bigger effect than calibration or no.,  With that said, it\'s crazy to invest a few grand setting up an HD home theatre and not taking the few minutes it takes to perform at least simple calibrations (sound and video).  For people who watch/listen to a lot of media, they will want to invest the time AND money it would take to do a full system calibration, so that for the hundreds/thousands of hours they use their system they will be getting the best possible quality.

This makes many assumptions, but they\'re fairly straightforward, things like \'people spending thousands on a HD theatre will also spend some money optimizing their room layouts/design, researching purchases\' etc, etc.

Oh, and mm, you can rent all the necessary tools to do a full audio and visual calibration for a day for about 20 bucks, and if you do the reading ahead of time, it\'s all you need.  No need to spend hundreds or more than an hour or two.

Anyway, saw BR player in operation today. Thought the pic looked very nice but nothing that makes me want to chuck my Denon DVD player. I\'ll wait.