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« Reply #105 on: August 31, 2006, 02:30:17 PM »
people need to see ANY difference for it to take off.

put the average joe sixpack in front of TV\'s showing a 480i DVD (majority of DVD players in use today) and a 1080P Blu-Ray/HD-DVD.  think he\'ll see the difference (without some smuck playing with the contrast and sharpess sliders and screaming omgz calibration ftw! :rolleyes:)
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« Reply #106 on: August 31, 2006, 03:41:29 PM »
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Not the point.
Point is, for HD formats to take off, people need to see the advantage that it can bring, most people will not see that with out a properly calibrated TV.


May not be your point but most people wouldn\'t know a really good picture if bit them on the ass.
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« Reply #107 on: August 31, 2006, 06:02:16 PM »
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This thread proves my point, most of you know NOTHING about calibration and think that a TV outta the box is at it\'s best settings.
well that proves one thing. Most people wont calibrate their TV sets to get the maximum quality simply because they dont know

But the question is how much "uncalibrated" a TV set is before calibration to make the difference?
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« Reply #108 on: August 31, 2006, 06:05:56 PM »
little to none

placebo effect
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« Reply #109 on: August 31, 2006, 07:02:57 PM »
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well that proves one thing. Most people wont calibrate their TV sets to get the maximum quality simply because they dont know

But the question is how much "uncalibrated" a TV set is before calibration to make the difference?

TV that were factory adjusted were purposedly adjusted to be "off" specs to make them "stand out" in the showroom floors in store hoping to lure uniformed buyers into thinking that tv looks great.  How much uncalibrated or off specs the TV is varies from different type of models to models.  But pretty much any TVs that were made after 1995 or so were really off specs.  White is too bright, black is too dark, and color is so oversaturated such as blue is too blue and red is too red. edge enhancements, sharpness were overemphasize which introduce more annoying video noises to the picture...

I have a 27" TV that was made in 1993 that looks a heck lot more accurate and natural out of the box compares to the TVs that I owned that was made in 2000, and in 2003.


But of course, I recommend anyone that own TVs that were made around 1995 or afterward, to do some basic calibration by themselves.  chances are their TV are really off specs.  If you own a dvd player, such as playstation 2 would do, and you own some dvd movies that are "THX Certified" such as Pixar "The Incredibles", or Terminator 2: Extreme Edition, they have some basic audio/video test patterns included in the disc, just inserted the disc into the dvd player and follow the instructions on those audio/video test patterns to do the basic calibration.  Once you are done, the picture will looks more accurate and natural...Hey, it doesn\'t cost you any money to do so...

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« Reply #110 on: August 31, 2006, 11:00:26 PM »
Well, a calibration won\'t suddenly make 480P look like 1080P. It\'s just to make what\'s already on the screen look better. So anyone should be able to spot the difference between DVD\'s and HD-DVD\'s - calibration or not.
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« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2006, 04:34:51 AM »
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little to none

placebo effect


And if you believe that, you\'re ignorant and clueless.

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« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2006, 05:37:07 AM »
turn off fox news bro, the republicans aren\'t conspiring to make TV\'s miscalibrated.  NO TV\'s FOR OIL!!!1
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« Reply #113 on: September 01, 2006, 05:48:44 AM »
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Well, a calibration won\'t suddenly make 480P look like 1080P. It\'s just to make what\'s already on the screen look better. So anyone should be able to spot the difference between DVD\'s and HD-DVD\'s - calibration or not.

Thats what I thought

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« Reply #114 on: September 01, 2006, 07:02:58 AM »
because you used common sense.

LIC has the ability to calibrate a dodge reliant into a BMW.
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« Reply #116 on: September 01, 2006, 09:00:44 AM »
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turn off fox news bro, the republicans aren\'t conspiring to make TV\'s miscalibrated.  NO TV\'s FOR OIL!!!1
You truly are an idiot if you don\'t think that TV\'s out of the box are not properly calibrated. Hey, if you want to be ignorant, fine, but don\'t try and pass off something that is factual as anything less.

When you buy a TV it is not properly calirbated for optimal video settings. You\'re wrong, not only are you wrong, but you\'re being an arrogant idiot about being wrong.


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Now go ahead, post some dumb "witty" comment, so that you can\'t avoid being wrong and avoid the whole subject at hand.
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« Reply #117 on: September 01, 2006, 09:09:35 AM »


and say it with me lic, enthusiast.
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« Reply #118 on: September 01, 2006, 09:11:52 AM »
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and say it with me lic, enthusiast.


As I expected, a dumb witty comment.

Say it with me.

You\'re wrong, as usual..Get over it.

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« Reply #119 on: September 01, 2006, 09:28:08 AM »
I just had the bulb replaced in my LCD screen (it withered for a while and then burnt out) and the brightness and wide viewing angle are back.
 
So I put all my settings back to the default in the center of the slide. things like brightness and stuff
 
What are you trying to tell me LIC, that I can find a better picture by tinkering with it? I usually think I\'m making it worse.
 
Maybe I need a copy of the incredibles to try the calibration?
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