well, I swore I\'d never do it...but hello apple!

[CHIZZY]

here I am posting from our new imac...pretty sexy, just got the 17" but got the 2 GHZ processor and the 1 gig ram/wireless jammy upgrade. now if I can just figure out the damn thing I\'ll be OK... my bro\'s fiancee is a pro graphic designer, so she\'s sick on these things...I just need to learn some shortcuts and I\'ll be cool. Any good ones from our mac army would be great....

[nO-One]

congrats and enjoy

[Titan]

I think my next computer is gonna end up being a Mac. With them using Intel stuff, I can run both OS\'s and get the best of both worlds.

[videoholic]

Mac Pro with 5 gigs of ram now.  It\'s been working good ever since I had trouble the first day.

You\'re dead to me now.

my next notebook will be a mac

[GmanJoe]

Mac Pro with 5 gigs of ram now.  It\'s been working good ever since I had trouble the first day.

5 fuckin\' gigs?  Help with your renderings and transitions much? Did you get the ram from newegg?

Congrats Chizzy! You\'ll like it a lot, I\'m sure.

Titan, why would you want to run anything other than OS X? The only use for XP/Vista that I can see is games or some obscure program you just can\'t live without.

Oh shortcuts... F9-F12 does some nifty stuff with exposé and shit. OPT+W closes windows. OPT+Q quits programs (if you just close the window the program will still be running, a little something to get used to), OPT+M minimizes the window and puts it into the dock. OPT+H hides it instead. OPT+TAB is the Mac version of ALT+TAB\'ing.

If you run Camino (and you should, it\'s a great browser) you should remember to enable tabs in options. Dunno why they didn\'t enable it by default.

When I think of more I\'ll post it. Otherwise folks, feel free to add to the pile.

control = the apple key

Most shortcuts on the mac are the same thing as the PC just switch the control key and the apple (I think they call it the option key) key.  Bah, its been too long since I\'ve worked on a mac.  A number of my friends have  macbook pros and they love them.  I\'m sure if it hasn\'t already, it\'ll grow on you.

[Evi]

control = the apple key

There\'s still a control key on the Mac keyboard. The command key is now there instead of the alt key. The command (Apple key) serves functions in place of both, but the control key is still used as well.

(I think they call it the option key)

There is an option key, a control key, and a command (Apple) key on the Mac keyboard.

Most shortcuts on the mac are the same thing as the PC

Generally, but with slight modifications.

I\'m sure if it hasn\'t already, it\'ll grow on you.

The lack of cross-platform software compatibility is what\'s really pissing me off about Macs...which is why I\'m on Windows again. Sure, it\'ll grow on you, but I don\'t really like OS X at the moment. My Mac is collecting dust. It\'ll be better when I get a new Intel Mac so I can run both OS\'s simultaneously. But if I have to run just one OS right now, it\'s going to be XP.


The "pretty GUI" just isn\'t doing as much for me as it used to.

What does the stability do for you then? Or the lack of spyware? The lack of virus?

As a new XP user, I hate XP. But the Mac I\'ve used here at work, I hate even more. I think it might be the retarded mouse and completely unintuitive desktop. Not sure how old it is, tho.

[Evi]

What does the stability do for you then? Or the lack of spyware? The lack of virus?

Unless you\'re incompetent and/or retarded, spyware and viruses really aren\'t a problem. And neither is stability, as long as you know how to keep Windows maintained, which really actually doesn\'t take much effort as long as you know what you\'re doing. I\'m not going to argue Windows stability versus OS\'s with a UNIX/Linux core, because the latter is more stable. However, OS X does crash and when it does, it crashes HARD. The term for OX crashing is called a "kernel panic" and it is not a pleasant experience. OS X also needs to be maintained, despite popular belief, but everyone uses the spyware/virus/trojan/your mom excuse when it comes to talking about the two. It really isn\'t an issue, but since most people would rather not learn how to maintain something that contains their valuable data, the lazy way out would be to just not care...or get a Mac. Macs can be very easily hacked and that has been demonstrated time and time again. People can take over your entire system without you being aware. Just because Macs have a lot less viruses and spyware does not make them invulnerable to other means of attack. And Macs do get viruses from time to time. They are just less frequent, but with the advent of an ever-increasing userbase, more and more people are going to want to find ways to attack Mac users. It\'s just not first on their priority list because Microsoft owns most of the OS market.

I love Macs. And I love Windows. I know how to keep them both maintained and rarely have issues. Once in a blue moon I get some kind of virus or spyware on Windows and the moment it\'s on my system it is eradicated immediately.

There are much better arguments for using OS X over Windows XP, but the virus/spyware argument is just lame.

I think it might be the retarded mouse and completely unintuitive desktop.

And you think the Windows desktop is intuitive? It hasn\'t changed much since Windows 95. And you can use any USB mouse on OS X, not just the one it comes with. Just thought you should know...in case you miss the whole right-clicking thing...although the new Macs have two-button mice.

I call BS. OS X can\'t be \'very easily hacked\'.

Also I\'ve been using Windows on a daily basis since 1993 so I\'m not exactly a n00b. But at some point it just becomes a chore and I\'ve seen especially XP do some mindblowing (bad) stuff out of the blue. I don\'t miss it one bit.

[videoholic]

As a new XP user, I hate XP. But the Mac I\'ve used here at work, I hate even more. I think it might be the retarded mouse and completely unintuitive desktop. Not sure how old it is, tho.

Get a different mouse.  FIrst thing I did was buy a real mouse.