HD-DVD throws in the towel, Blu-Ray wins

[GmanJoe]

HD DVD did have more specials but they didn\'t sell that well compared to their BR counterparts. Consumers made their choice, and not just in the US.

I wasn\'t joking. At least over here HD-DVD\'s are more expensive. I thought that was the case in the US too? I might be thinking of those combo discs, but I heard they were like $5 bucks more than similar Blu-ray\'s.

combo discs were more expensive.

You don\'t even half way comprehend what he is trying to say, so don\'t try and pass it off as tho you already "addressed" the issues.

Good luck with that guys, price isn\'t going to change that much.  When a company can sell gobs of product at the current price, they aren\'t going to have any incentive to bring the price down.

DVD\'s were a harder sell.  People are much more willing these days to adopt a new format so Blu-ray can still justify a higher cost due to it being "hi-def"

And Blu RAY will not replace DVD, it\'s a niche format at it\'s best.

HD DVD did have more specials but they didn\'t sell that well compared to their BR counterparts. Consumers made their choice, and not just in the US.

And the movie companies as well

History proves that prices of Blu-Ray dics will come down,...cheaper processing and manufacturing will do that...but i do think it will take a bit longer for it to replace dvd\'s if at all,...i mean i do see a difference between regular dvd\'s and blu-ray, but to the average joe i think dvd\'s will do just fine.....but once everybody gets on board i think we\'ll start to see significant drops in price...

Yep. The probability is high that they will. There was no real price competition and there was no chance on earth that both formats could prevail. It was only a transitory stage on which of the two was going to remain. It was either none or one since the beginning but some simply dont realize it, claiming that competition was going to reduce prices. The only form of competition was on which format was going to absorb the highest movie support. The existence of two different formats was economically inefficient for both library support and cost efficiency. The competition was fictitious. Besides who was going to reduce prices? The format suppliers who have the lowest profit margins from the disks? Or the movie companies who only care to shift towards a uniform market that is absent of uncertainty and is more cost efficient? And the demand isnt even inelastic to expect that prices wont go down.

The fact that the average joe may be satisfied with DVDs currently, may push for farther price reduction and addition of extra features.

It is not very different than the DVD market. This current stage is the beginning of the products life cycle.

combo discs were more expensive.

As they should be.

On the other hand, regular HD DVD were cheaper than Blu Ray.

HD DVD did have more specials but they didn\'t sell that well compared to their BR counterparts. Consumers made their choice, and not just in the US.

Did they? Or was the biggest factor because of the PS3 and the Blu-Ray drive?  

And either way, it\'s still a niche format at it\'s best. Until every person can take advantage and notice a different in hi-def formats, it\'ll play second string to DVD.

what\'s this extra "still" doing in there now?

is it a niche format or still a niche format?

You know what I meant, so quit being an anal fuckin\' tard.

no, i didn\'t know what you meant.


claiming BD will be a niche format, and claiming it is still a niche format has two completely different meanings.

perhaps all the positive news of huge BD sales since your initial comment changed your tune?

As they should be.

So if a movie was only available on HD-DVD as a combo disc, then wouldn\'t you be forced to buy it and pay more than you would for a similar movie on Blu-ray?

On the other hand, regular HD DVD were cheaper than Blu Ray.

At least in the US. Not everywhere.

no, i didn\'t know what you meant.


claiming BD will be a niche format, and claiming it is still a niche format has two completely different meanings.

perhaps all the positive news of huge BD sales since your initial comment changed your tune?

Minus the fact I don\'t keep up with sales numbers and I haven\'t changed my tune? I always said any hi-def format will be a niche format. Nor could I care less about any sales numbers. All I care about is the price, I the consumer pays.

k, hopefully somebody with more interest bumps this thread a year from now when BD is soaring along.

Yea not to keep harping on this issue, but the migration seems easy enough to me...

Only 1 cable to connect to your HDTV or HT system, Netflix offers Blu-ray at no extra charge, the PS3\'s got it, helps get you puzzy, etc...

Yea not to keep harping on this issue, but the migration seems easy enough to me...

Only 1 cable to connect to your HDTV or HT system, Netflix offers Blu-ray at no extra charge, the PS3\'s got it, helps get you puzzy, etc...

Minus the facts.........

1: Viewing distance.

2: Proper calibration.

3: Proper sets.

4: Varying degree\'s of quality movie to movie .

5: Size of set + viewing distance

6: Not everyone can notice hi-def. I know quite a few people who notice no difference.

The list goes on and on.

You guys act like that if you put in a hi-def disc, you will notice the difference right off.

you will.

unless they don\'t own a HDTV, the difference is noticeable instantly.
"proper sets"?

And either way, it\'s still a niche format at it\'s best. Until every person can take advantage and notice a different in hi-def formats, it\'ll play second string to DVD.

yeah because if you knew a little bit about product cycles and marketing you would have known that this is applicable for almost any newly introduced product related to technology and it is temporary thus you have no valid point.