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Offline Luke
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« on: July 11, 2008, 03:48:12 PM »
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521


Man, this guy just can\'t make up his mind, eh?


As a lifelong Bears fan I\'ve had the pleasure of watching Favre tear up my team twice a year for a long time. I\'ve always had a very solid respect for the man, but this is just getting silly.


Ten bucks says he comes back, plays for some random team (not the packers) and then just ends up going out looking like a d-bag after a few mediocre seasons.


I swear I better not have to sit through any more brett favre love fests on ESPN when he retires again.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 04:05:34 PM »
He would do well in MN. The Bears could certainly use him.

Actually that would be funny with the rivalry over the last 60+ years
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 04:07:57 PM »
not suprised since he made the decision to retire way too quickly after the season was over. And it\'s not like hes the first one to do this

the main thing that bugs me is he comes off a little egocentric. He put the packers in a tough spot. him retiring made the packers decide to draft qb\'s and start grooming aaron rodgers as the starter..then he all of a sudden wants to come back no matter what kind of tough position he puts the organization in cuz he\'s brett favre.

but itll definitly be interesting if the vikings pick him up..can\'t see the bears actually forking out money on their offense, but they could use him
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 04:35:15 PM »
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the main thing that bugs me is he comes off a little egocentric. He put the packers in a tough spot. him retiring made the packers decide to draft qb\'s and start grooming aaron rodgers as the starter..then he all of a sudden wants to come back no matter what kind of tough position he puts the organization in cuz he\'s brett favre.




Favre actually hates i mean HATES Ted Thompson. Ted T. basically made this whole situation. Favre didn\'t want to retire at the end of the year he was basically convinced into it by being rushed and haveing the GM not talk to him at all. And on top of it since TT was made GM Favre feels like he has never gotten the respect or anything from him. Regardless if Favre is right or not the GM should have done what is best for the Green Bay Packers and not made this situation.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 04:35:24 PM »
God forbid the Packers let the 4th best QB of last season play.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 05:02:58 PM »
Yeah, someone on the packers message board said something like "well he can come back if he\'s ok with being aaron rodgers backup"


are you fucking kidding me? the bears havent had a good quaterback in a million years and these doorknobs want so bad to play aaron rodgers that would make brett favre back him up.

god packer fans are stupid.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 05:03:49 PM »
I know. Why on earth would you not want the most-intercepted quarterback in NFL history line up behind center? The year after he single-handedly ruined the strongest Packers team Green Bay fielded in ten years?
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 05:06:36 PM »
Quote from: Viper_Fujax
not suprised since he made the decision to retire way too quickly after the season was over. And it\'s not like hes the first one to do this

the main thing that bugs me is he comes off a little egocentric. He put the packers in a tough spot. him retiring made the packers decide to draft qb\'s and start grooming aaron rodgers as the starter..then he all of a sudden wants to come back no matter what kind of tough position he puts the organization in cuz he\'s brett favre.

but itll definitly be interesting if the vikings pick him up..can\'t see the bears actually forking out money on their offense, but they could use him


I have to agree. Favre, while great, just seems to come off on a guy who craves this attention. For the last few years he just constantly keeps the Packers on their toes on if he will retire or not. Now he wants come back. No wait - he doesn\'t. No - wait he does. No, it doesn\'t. It\'s absurd.

Then again, I felt the same way when his father passed away and he played that night. For me, it seemed like poor taste. I know a lot of people believe it showed how strong he was, but for me, it just seemed like he was playing just so people would talk about what he was doing.

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 05:12:21 PM »
It\'s ridiculous.  He\'d have to win an MVP or a super bowl at this point for a come back to not tarnish his legacy.  It\'ll be like Jordan in Washington...everyone will kind of just want to forget it happened.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 05:32:57 PM »
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I know. Why on earth would you not want the most-intercepted quarterback in NFL history line up behind center? The year after he single-handedly ruined the strongest Packers team Green Bay fielded in ten years?



With all of his accomplishments you choose that stat?

a victory against the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XXXI.  most career NFL touchdown passes (442), most career NFL passing yards (61,655), most career pass completions (5,377), most career pass attempts (8,758), most career NFL interceptions thrown (288), most consecutive starts among NFL quarterbacks (253; 275 total starts including playoffs), and most career victories as a starting quarterback (160).[
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 06:46:55 PM »
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I know. Why on earth would you not want the most-intercepted quarterback in NFL history line up behind center? The year after he single-handedly ruined the strongest Packers team Green Bay fielded in ten years?

I love people who yank this stat out trying to make favre look shitty. Most years he threw sooo many passes a game that it was bound to happen. I think people put too much on interceptions. They happen. The good qb\'s are the ones who can take the ball next time out and go 90 yards for a touchdown, which favre did many, many times.

You do realize that last years team would not have even made the playoffs if it weren\'t for him pulling 3 td games out of his ass right?
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 06:48:23 PM »
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You do realize that last years team would not have even made the playoffs if it weren\'t for him pulling 3 td games out of his ass right?


there\'s a bit more to it. ryan grant breaking out was a ginormous reason..and their wide recievers, other than driver, stepping up.
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 06:52:59 PM »
yeah yeah yeah but you cant tell me without farve that woulda been the same team. He won at least 3 or 4 games for them last year damn near by himself.

And for most of the year their rushing game was ranked last in the league. And I guarantee that those wr\'s wouldn\'t have looked so good without fave throwing pinpoint passes to them while 2 defensive linemen are all over his ass.


bottom line - farve isnt what he used to be, no doubt, but in his prime he was the best qb in the nfl, and even now he\'s still better than at least 75% of the starting qb\'s in the league.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 07:56:21 PM »
I bring up Favre\'s interceptions because #1, he has often thrown them at the worst times: the playoffs. At least three Green Bay playoff runs were single-handedly ended because of Favre\'s interceptions, some very disastrously (6 ints against the Rams in 01, two suicidal picks against the Giants this year). He\'s only won three playoff games since their defeat in Super Bowl 32 ten years ago, not very acceptable considering that he\'s had at least solid talent around him for most of his career. He damn well should have won more than one Super Bowl.

I\'m not saying Favre sucks, but I am saying he\'s overrated. Vastly. Dan Marino and Joe Namath are the only quarterbacks more overrated, in my opinion. Favre has won many games on his own. He\'s also lost many games on his own, too. Hell, Favre isn\'t even Green Bay\'s best quarterback. Bart Starr is. (I consider Starr the greatest quarterback ever)
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 08:02:12 PM »
Hmm...i don\'t know....i like favre...ireally respect the guy,...but even if he does come back,..for some reason i don\'t see him havin\' an explosive season* i guess i\'m just used to seeein him with the pacs*...and he\'s not nearly as quick as he used to be...yes he can still throw, but whatever team he goes to must have a strong O line.

I agree with viper tho,..if he didn\'t want to retire he didn\'t have to...nobody forced him,...he did really put the team in a tough spot,..i\'m sure if he didn\'t retire he still would\'ve been the no 1 qb in greenbay, even tho they were grooming that young qb...brett at the most has few good years left in him and that\'s about it,...cause anything after that is suicide..your body can only take so many hits & punishment before it breaks down,...and when you\'re older like that it doesn\'t take much to shatter your ribs or other parts of your body...

Again i do luv Brett, but he just should\'ve bowed out gracefully,..he has nothing to be ashamed of in his career. Now he runs the risk of bein\' like priest holmes who was practically non-existant last year.
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