Republicrats?

I ll move next to yours after that promise

And you cant imagine how much I would enjoy it just by the idea of taking you with me

[Jumpman]

And that\'s who you will be from now on Unicron...Shitpiece.

And that\'s who you will be from now on Unicron...Shitpiece.

in your mouth

[Jumpman]

Quiet, Shitpiece.

im gonna vote for whoever can put more money back in my paycheck





fuck

im gonna vote for whoever can put more money back in my paycheck





fuck

Ron Paul, he wants to eliminate income tax all together.

"Don\'t steal. The government hates competition"

[Viper_Fujax]

Ron Paul, he wants to eliminate income tax all together.

that is the stupidest idea i\'ve ever heard.

lower it, yes, especailly for the middle class. But i\'d like to see the government function with absolutely no income tax

that is the stupidest idea i\'ve ever heard.

lower it, yes, especailly for the middle class. But i\'d like to see the government function with absolutely no income tax

Ron Paul\'s suggestion if I am not mistaken isnt the complete absence of any form of income tax. If I am not mistaken he wants to eliminate the income tax that burdens the citizens\' normal income, which he and many others believe it is unconstitutional and a form of control over the citizens. They have material to back this claim up.

There are other forms of income taxes like those on corporations. In general if I remember well, what they say is that the only constitutional tax form is that, which targets income that stem from profits. And the emphasis should be there

In other words the upper classes. Those it is believed are owning the largest percentage of wealth of the country, who are ruling the system and are contributing less into the government revenues than the normal citizens who are struggling for a living.

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Doesn\'t affect me. And raising one tax is much different from raising the capital gains tax, etc. I don\'t have time to teach you economics. The king of flip floppers happens to be Obama. Does the 2nd Amendment ruling by the Supreme Court ring a bell? Obama was all for banning handguns in DC, but once the Supreme Court ruled against the ban he was all for the ruling.

Really?,...you know that piece of paper you get every two weeks?..your paycheck?....riiiight...it\'s going to affect that, so it affects everybody...who cares about that handgun law?...that does not affect me. i never wanted to move to dc anyway f**k \'em...

Bush sent a convoy to Iran? Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Obama is all for appeasement and no action. He thinks he can reason with Putin - bwahahahaha. You know if he can get hustled by a German reporter I wonder what heads of other state can do to him.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...568532,00.html

So...Bush didn\'t send a group of folks to talk to the iranians just recently?...and didn\'t he(bush) himself just agreed to proposed timelines or "time horizons?"..:rolleyes: in iraq?..after he stated he would not endorse them...yep he sure did, and this is coming offa that trip that Obama had with the iraqi prime minister, in which he agreed with Obama\'s 16 month pull out of iraq....shame really how bush & co. are taking notes from Obama\'s notebook...
y\'know that new guy on the block with "0" experience...:rolleyes:

I\'d also like to note again that I\'m not a big McCain fan, just tired of the blind followers of Obama who think he will save us from the brink of destruction.

So what about the blind followers of McCain like my conservative counterpart that posted above you?....if you\'re gonna play the neutral card, then please, let\'s have some balanced criticism...mmkay?...otherwise you\'re just as bad as fox news...

All I want from a President is someone hip and cool.
So. I vote for Obama.

WOOT!

No doubt!!...and this is why i regard you as one of the smartest and coolest cats on this forum...:fro:

[Living-In-Clip]

Well, that and the fact that I love me some black women..But, nevermind that... uhm.

Yeah, I just want a hip President. No more old dudes. You know, maybe someone who , uhm, likes Mcdonald fries and porn.

Wait - Clinton..Ermm..Yeah, Obama, that dude



<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPugAcQILRY

that is the stupidest idea i\'ve ever heard.

lower it, yes, especailly for the middle class. But i\'d like to see the government function with absolutely no income tax

Actually the amount of money that the government receives from individual income tax would only revert the government back to year 2000 spending levels.  Considering the government overspends on sooooo many social programs that aren\'t needed (such as Welfare, IRS, etc.), this is actually quite a reasonable budget to work with.

In my eyes, by saying what you said, you are conceding that the government owns you, and you have no individual rights as a worker.

Ron Paul\'s suggestion if I am not mistaken isnt the complete absence of any form of income tax. If I am not mistaken he wants to eliminate the income tax that burdens the citizens\' normal income, which he and many others believe it is unconstitutional and a form of control over the citizens. They have material to back this claim up.

There are other forms of income taxes like those on corporations. In general if I remember well, what they say is that the only constitutional tax form is that, which targets income that stem from profits. And the emphasis should be there

In other words the upper classes. Those it is believed are owning the largest percentage of wealth of the country, who are ruling the system and are contributing less into the government revenues than the normal citizens who are struggling for a living.

i thought his suggestion was that we eliminate income tax in favor of a national sales tax. probably ends up being the same but at least we\'re only taxed once per dollar as opposed to once when we earn it and once when we spend it

Really?,...you know that piece of paper you get every two weeks?..your paycheck?....riiiight...it\'s going to affect that, so it affects everybody...who cares about that handgun law?...that does not affect me. i never wanted to move to dc anyway f**k \'em...

It doesn\'t.  I don\'t pay into SS.  We have our own retirement plan here.  I am done debating in this thread with you as it now bores me.  So... talk about your "convoy" all you want, but you might want to invest in a dictionary and the word you are looking for is envoy.

i thought his suggestion was that we eliminate income tax in favor of a national sales tax. probably ends up being the same but at least we\'re only taxed once per dollar as opposed to once when we earn it and once when we spend it

Perhaps you are right on that one.

Doesnt national sales tax already exist in goods and services btw? Or is it just in some goods and services?

 Personally I am against sales taxes though. It is the lower classes that are burdened the most from such a scheme. The lower the income, the bigger is the perceived value per dollar amount lost through taxes. The middle and low classes will still be under pressure and control, only this time indirectly. The end result isnt much different from an income tax.

 Perhaps the biggest difference outside the one you mentioned which Ron Paul targets, is the power the IRS has over people through income tax collection. The IRS can prosecute individuals now. Unlike income tax collection though the citizen can partially control what he pays for through national sales taxes by choosing his goods and services or by consuming less without any direct governmental intervention in his personal life. He basically wants to reduce the state control over citizens knowing the interests that are hidden within.