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Offline Coredweller
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2008, 01:23:17 PM »
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BTW Biden drives a Bosniac?  WTF is that?  Also Joe, try saying the word "characterized" - come on you can do it.
I believe the Vice President of the United States, second in command of our armed forces, should be able to pronounce the word "Nuclear."  Like many stupid people in this country, she doesn\'t notice that she\'s saying it wrong.

Likewise, I think a candidate who is seeking to govern a NATION should display enough curiosity about other nations to consider leaving their own country and traveling abroad occasionally.  Palin appears to be incurious.  She\'s an example of the type of american conservativism that is not interested in learning new things or having their beliefs challenged by new information.  But hey, that\'s just the way I see it.

Overall, I felt the debate was a dead heat.  Palin was well coached, and successfully memorized a number of stock answers with mass appeal.  Biden displayed his extensive experience and knowledge of world and domestic affairs.  Liberals who favor substance were pleased with Biden, and conservatives who care about personality were pleased with Palin.  From the average viewer\'s perspective, that\'s a dead heat.  No clear winner, but unfortunately for the GOP, that leaves the McCain campaign still slipping behind.
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2008, 02:34:15 PM »
Regarding Mr. Kennedy\'s post:

John McCain has a paid Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac representative working for him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26831560/

Lawsuits you mentioned were to reduce racial discrimination, not to force banks to make bad loans.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/loans.asp

George Bush did not try to make it tougher to get loans.  He was in favor of increasing loans to “deserving families who have bad credit histories.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021015-7.html

McCain and most other republicans supported deregulation and reduced oversight of financial institutions over and over.
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/09/19/perino-challenge/
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Sep21/0,4670,FinancialMeltdownCandidates,00.html
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McCain was asked if he regretted supporting a 1999 law that removed barriers between investment banks and commercial banks that were erected in 1933, in response to the 1929 stock market crash.

"No," McCain said. "I think the deregulation was probably helpful to the growth of our economy."
Helpful maybe, but at a very great cost to be paid later.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2008, 02:37:13 PM by Coredweller »
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2008, 02:55:41 PM »
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I believe the Vice President of the United States, second in command of our armed forces, should be able to pronounce the word "Nuclear."  Like many stupid people in this country, she doesn\'t notice that she\'s saying it wrong.

Likewise, I think a candidate who is seeking to govern a NATION should display enough curiosity about other nations to consider leaving their own country and traveling abroad occasionally.  Palin appears to be incurious.  She\'s an example of the type of american conservativism that is not interested in learning new things or having their beliefs challenged by new information.  But hey, that\'s just the way I see it.

Overall, I felt the debate was a dead heat.  Palin was well coached, and successfully memorized a number of stock answers with mass appeal.  Biden displayed his extensive experience and knowledge of world and domestic affairs.  Liberals who favor substance were pleased with Biden, and conservatives who care about personality were pleased with Palin.  From the average viewer\'s perspective, that\'s a dead heat.  No clear winner, but unfortunately for the GOP, that leaves the McCain campaign still slipping behind.


I believe the VP of the United States should know the name of the country that is on Israel\'s north border.  Biden almost had a teary Hillary moment too!  

The McCain campaign will only benefit from her performance.  0bama has peaked too early.
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2008, 03:25:22 PM »
0llama.
Who is this anamoly we call Jumpman? How is he able to do what he does and still survive after years of torment? It seems he feeds on the hate, growing with an intense passion to put unassuming members in their place.

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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2008, 03:25:35 PM »
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Ummm... actually no... I don\'t there was a clear winner.  I expected Palin to get destroyed, but she held her own.  Polls are cute, but all the political analysts after the debate tipped their hats to Palin for going toe to toe with Biden.

Your just as bad as Giga LIC, your just on the other side of the fence.  All Obama has to do is smile and you\'ll think he won the debate.  Keep reading reddit/digg and other liberal media outlets if that makes you feel good about yourself.

I am tired of your anti-conservative remarks.  Your just as big an idiot as the rest of them.  Everyone keeps complaining about the state of the economy, but when Obama gets elected and he starts taxing all these businesses and they have to let their employees go because they have no more money... you\'ll be wishing you voted the other way.

Jobs are more important that tax breaks.  End of story.

As a side note:  If you are going to cut taxes, cut taxes for everyone, I shiver every time I hear redistribution of wealth, we are not a communist nation.  Free markets FTW.


You must mean beside the fact that I don\'t vote and don\'t support either. I simply point out that no matter what GIga is all up and arms about "0bama".

Nice try tho\'.
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2008, 05:12:28 PM »
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Communism FTW.


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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2008, 05:23:14 PM »
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You must mean beside the fact that I don\'t vote and don\'t support either. I simply point out that no matter what GIga is all up and arms about "0bama".

Nice try tho\'.
OH and..

Communism FTW.


I dont support either candidate either, but Im taking a stand against socialism.

If you dont mind me asking, what do you do for a living?
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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2008, 06:11:16 PM »
are you guys sure obama is a socialist?  I thought he was a moderate, like an independent that is more inline of democratic.

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« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2008, 06:55:28 PM »
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Regarding Mr. Kennedy\'s post:

John McCain has a paid Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac representative working for him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26831560/

Lawsuits you mentioned were to reduce racial discrimination, not to force banks to make bad loans.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/loans.asp

George Bush did not try to make it tougher to get loans.  He was in favor of increasing loans to “deserving families who have bad credit histories.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021015-7.html

McCain and most other republicans supported deregulation and reduced oversight of financial institutions over and over.
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/09/19/perino-challenge/
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Sep21/0,4670,FinancialMeltdownCandidates,00.html

Helpful maybe, but at a very great cost to be paid later.



Ahhh nice post Core...whelp,..looks like you countered everything kennedy posted...:thumb:
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« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2008, 07:10:02 PM »
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Ahhh nice post Core...whelp,..looks like you countered everything kennedy posted...:thumb:

I wasn\'t saying John McCain was off the hook.  I was stating Obama\'s just as guilty, if not worse offender than him.

I hate to say it but there\'s a very fine line between minorities and bad credit histories.

Obama still led to the crisis regardless.
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« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2008, 07:11:09 PM »
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are you guys sure obama is a socialist?  I thought he was a moderate, like an independent that is more inline of democratic.


Is this a serious post?  Universal healthcare, redistribution of wealth, government regulation.  Sounds like socialism.
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« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2008, 07:18:04 PM »
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Natural form? You mean heavily edited natural form? 0bama isn\'t qualified to be President if he gets elected. People have seen the true 0bama when he states people cling to guns and religion.

Fox News is the only news outlet in the US that isn\'t in the tank for 0bama. Name me another one if you can. Oh thats right you can\'t.



How can an interview with her giving direct answers be edited?...nobody edited her answers when she gave that interview with couric....now you\'re believing conspiracy theories?...:laughing:...you\'re a mindless conservative drone...at least when biden made that patriotic remark, i admitted that was something he should not have stated,...as much of an airhead palin is you can\'t even admit she did horribly in those interviews....conservatives can do no wrong in your eyes...and fox news?...:rofl:...that news organization is in the tank for republicans in general....cnn criticizes both obama & mccain in a balanced way.

Obama has shown that he\'s ready to lead the nation in a new direction...deep down you truly know Palin is not ready to be prez. The thought of her bein\' prez should send shivvers down your spine, seriously she would be a joke, and nobody would take her "folksy" attitude seriously.



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Did Obama tell you that?


That\'s what he stated over and over and he makes it clear that he will only tax those companies that send american jobs over seas...it\'s hard for you to comprehend that Obama actually has policies that makes sense right? Yet you refuse to believe it. It\'s in his plan.
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« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2008, 07:51:12 PM »
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That\'s what he stated over and over and he makes it clear that he will only tax those companies that send american jobs over seas...it\'s hard for you to comprehend that Obama actually has policies that makes sense right? Yet you refuse to believe it. It\'s in his plan.


That gives me as much confidence as Obama\'s support for the Community Reinvestment Act.
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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2008, 08:04:58 PM »
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I hate to say it but there\'s a very fine line between minorities and bad credit histories.


Ain\'t that the truth....by the way, would you mind doing me a favor and co-sign for this new benz i\'ve been lookin\' at?...;)


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Obama still led to the crisis regardless.



That\'s a bit of an exaggeration...so he\'s to blame for the sub-prime mess? Core already pointed out that those companys weren\'t forced to write those loans,... they saw an opportunity to create a fast profit, and now they are paying the consequences for it.
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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2008, 02:04:17 AM »
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I dont support either candidate either, but Im taking a stand against socialism.

If you dont mind me asking, what do you do for a living?


I draw a welfare check.
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