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« on: December 17, 2008, 09:00:27 PM »
There are a few games treading a thin line, but these games here i know i\'ll probably take to tha grave.

Psone:

-RE 1 & 2
-Parasite eve 1 & 2
-Final Fantasy 7
-Silent Hill
-Fear Effect

Ps2:

-Silent Hill 2,3,4
-RE4
-GT3
- Indigo Propecy
- The Thing
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-Smackdown vs Raw 06
-Fight Night Rd2
-Shadow of the Colossus
-Devil May Cry
-Bloodrayne 2
-The Suffering


Ps3:

-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Uncharted
-Siren Blood Curse
-Kane and Lynch

Games on tha bubble:

Tekken5, Fatal Frame, The Bouncer, NBA 2k5, Fight Night rd2(depends on how good the new one is)

I\'ll most likely get rid of tekken when the new one drops, but i\'ll probably end up keepin\' everything else since i\'ll get next to nothing for them.
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 09:05:48 PM »
i usually get very "im never going to play these again so ill trade them in anyway while i get the next generation console" and traded most of my ps1 games to get a ps2 and ps2 to get a 360

the only game i regret selling is shadow of the colossus, but i still doubt id ever play it again

nostalgia is great up until the point you actually revisit those games. I tried to play RE2 a couple days ago and i couldnt even get to the first checkpoint..mainly because the controls are horrific
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 10:01:18 PM »
Any Saturn game I own.

Any Capcom game I own.

Any old school  / rare game I own.

All modern games will be traded in, as I don\'t want to collect the current junk that the industry puts out.
Basically, anything after the DC is fair game. Anything from the DC or before, will not be traded.
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 10:14:18 PM »
Final Fantasy Tactics
Front Mission 3

Those are about the only two.
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 10:41:11 PM »
Although I never trade in or gave away games before well maybe i let my younger brother in law borrowed it and he said he let his friends borrowed it and they lost it or something.  I believed that game was Mega Man X5 and something else.  That was back in 2002.  In early 2006, I bought MMX Collection and it included MMX5 in it.  So, its cool.

But games I will keep like a collector are:

SNES:

-Zelda: A Link to the Past (bought it on swap meet a couple of years ago just for collection.)  My nephew likes this game.
-Mortal Kombat II  (bought on Swap meet on the same day too)

that is the only 2 SNES games I had.  Used to have some SNES, Genesis, and NES games until my brother gave it away to my nephew and nieces.

PSOne:

-Final Fantasy VII (definitely.  Quite possibly the best game experience all around I ever had in my life.  There are other excellence games that hold something special in my heart too, but this is the best of the best)
-Castlevania: SOTN
-Final Fantasy Tactics
-Chrono Cross
-Metal Gear Solid

PS2:

-Mega Man X Collection
-Sonic Mega Collection Plus
-Capcom Classics Collection
-Sega Genesis Collection
-Final Fantasy X
-Metal Gear Solid 2

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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2008, 05:26:31 AM »
FF7

still got mine after all these years, and it\'s in mint condition
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2008, 05:46:25 AM »
I remember when I had my nintendo 64 and like 40 games for it and my brother traded it all in for a dreamcast and some games and accesories.  He never told me he was doing this, and I missed out on Majora\'s Mask because of it.  Needless to say, Sega, as expected, announced the end of their console the next month.  Worst trade in evar!

Although in retrospect, I wish I still had my dreamcast as there is a loyal community of DC players still out there.
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2008, 09:40:55 AM »
Splinter Cell Double Agent - Xbox 1 (I\'ve got 3 discs...one of them is scratched)
Splinter Cell - Xbox 1
Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow - Xbox 1
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - Xbox 1 & PC

Ico - PS2 (I\'ve got the PAL paper artwork box & the rerelease)

Silent Hill 2 - PS2 (special edition with making of DVD)

Metal Gear Solid - PSone

Hitman Blood Money - Xbox 1 & PC

....and, I really regret having sold my N64 with GoldenEye 007, F1 World Grand Prix racing, Mortal Kombat 4 and SW Rogue Squadron.
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2008, 09:44:15 AM »
I hate to take this a bit off topic, but do you guys think sega will make a comeback? Or has the xbox officially solidfied itself as sega\'s successor? I mean sega wasn\'t a total bust, they were successful with the genesis and saturn, but i never really understood how they fell off with the dreamcast...even with the sony hype machine.

I know shortly after the dreamcast they were reduced to just makin\' games, but for a company that was well known in the arcades as well as in residential homes, it\'s kinda hard to believe that they won\'t make another run at it..... Meh now that i think about it, at this point it\'d probably be pretty hard to break the stranglehold that sony,ms & nintendo has on the industry...any newcomer would probably fail to capture an audience at this point.
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2008, 11:36:38 AM »
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Splinter Cell Double Agent - Xbox 1 (I\'ve got 3 discs...one of them is scratched)
Splinter Cell - Xbox 1
Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow - Xbox 1
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory - Xbox 1 & PC


splinter cell on xbox? no offense..but bleh

i loved the splinter cell games on pc but after playing pandora tomorrow on xbox i almost stopped playing the series all together it was so bad. luckily i got a hold of chaos theory (pc) and i liked double agent on 360.

too bad the series got lost in duke nukem, production oblivion
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2008, 11:38:55 AM »
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I hate to take this a bit off topic, but do you guys think sega will make a comeback? Or has the xbox officially solidfied itself as sega\'s successor? I mean sega wasn\'t a total bust, they were successful with the genesis and saturn, but i never really understood how they fell off with the dreamcast...even with the sony hype machine.

I know shortly after the dreamcast they were reduced to just makin\' games, but for a company that was well known in the arcades as well as in residential homes, it\'s kinda hard to believe that they won\'t make another run at it..... Meh now that i think about it, at this point it\'d probably be pretty hard to break the stranglehold that sony,ms & nintendo has on the industry...any newcomer would probably fail to capture an audience at this point.
i think sega was somewhat successful with Sega master system, and very successful with sega genesis.  then they started to went downhill afterward by releasing add-on and newer consoles every year or so.  Sega is a great example of why add-ons and releasing new consoles every 18 months will lost supports from consumers and developers.

Maybe you have forgotten the Saturn was a failed console actually.  I heard they released a few months early to lure sells and to compete with the upcoming release of the PlayStation which comes out a few months later.  Heard that it was difficult to programs game on the Saturn too.  But I know for sure this is one of the biggest reason why it failed is the $400 price tag when the PlayStation debut at $300.  and PlayStation is much easier to program games.  Not to mention about a year later in 1996 in E3 i believe, Sony said they will slashed the price of PSOne to $200 to compete with the upcoming N64.  This really makes it harder for Sega.

Don\'t forget years before the launched of Saturn, Sega was making wrong decisions by releasing add-on to the Genesis like the Sega CD, and a newer console like Sega 32x as a cheaper alternative to the Saturn.  So, they actually have 3 major failure consoles there.  Looking back, if Sega hadn\'t bother with the Sega CD or the 32x, but rather wait till like a 5 years lifespan of the Sega Genesis to release the Sega Saturn, they might have more supports from developers and consumers.  They need to sell at $300 to lure more buyers and to compete with Sony PlayStation too when they first launched and don\'t rush releasing the console early, making it hard to programs will discourage developers too.

I think Sega learned their lessons with the Sega CD, 32x, and Saturn.  So, they did a lot of things right with Sega Dreamcast.  But it was too late for Sega to regain a good position as the popularity of the PlayStation from both the developers and the consumers are just too much for Sega.  As soon as the PS2 comes out, there are more big titles support for it, and the fact that it can support DVD playback really gave the consumers the confident of getting the PS2 and not worrying about the console to be a failure down the road.  Which it didn\'t and the PS2 was the most successful consoles ever sold in history.

So, it\'s unlikely that Sega can make a comeback or bother too.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2008, 11:48:04 AM »
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splinter cell on xbox? no offense..but bleh

i loved the splinter cell games on pc but after playing pandora tomorrow on xbox i almost stopped playing the series all together it was so bad.

Srry, but where\'s you argument ?
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2008, 12:17:40 PM »
not making an arguement. i just thought it sucked on the first xbox. but i didnt like anything related to a shooter on that generation of console
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2008, 01:37:02 PM »
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i think sega was somewhat successful with Sega master system, and very successful with sega genesis.  then they started to went downhill afterward by releasing add-on and newer consoles every year or so.  Sega is a great example of why add-ons and releasing new consoles every 18 months will lost supports from consumers and developers.

Maybe you have forgotten the Saturn was a failed console actually.  I heard they released a few months early to lure sells and to compete with the upcoming release of the PlayStation which comes out a few months later.  Heard that it was difficult to programs game on the Saturn too.  But I know for sure this is one of the biggest reason why it failed is the $400 price tag when the PlayStation debut at $300.  and PlayStation is much easier to program games.  Not to mention about a year later in 1996 in E3 i believe, Sony said they will slashed the price of PSOne to $200 to compete with the upcoming N64.  This really makes it harder for Sega.

Don\'t forget years before the launched of Saturn, Sega was making wrong decisions by releasing add-on to the Genesis like the Sega CD, and a newer console like Sega 32x as a cheaper alternative to the Saturn.  So, they actually have 3 major failure consoles there.  Looking back, if Sega hadn\'t bother with the Sega CD or the 32x, but rather wait till like a 5 years lifespan of the Sega Genesis to release the Sega Saturn, they might have more supports from developers and consumers.  They need to sell at $300 to lure more buyers and to compete with Sony PlayStation too when they first launched and don\'t rush releasing the console early, making it hard to programs will discourage developers too.

I think Sega learned their lessons with the Sega CD, 32x, and Saturn.  So, they did a lot of things right with Sega Dreamcast.  But it was too late for Sega to regain a good position as the popularity of the PlayStation from both the developers and the consumers are just too much for Sega.  As soon as the PS2 comes out, there are more big titles support for it, and the fact that it can support DVD playback really gave the consumers the confident of getting the PS2 and not worrying about the console to be a failure down the road.  Which it didn\'t and the PS2 was the most successful consoles ever sold in history.

So, it\'s unlikely that Sega can make a comeback or bother too.


From a business perspective the Saturn was an epic failure.  Let\'s back up for a second though, they had already taken hits on the 32X and Sega CD which should have never been released to begin with.  Saturn was all set to launch on September 2nd, 1995 - but when Sony announced the release of the Playstation they freaked out and rushed their system to the market so they could get a lead on Sony.  This pissed off third party developers and essentially sealed their fate.  Don\'t get me wrong, the Saturn had some great 1st party games... but that was the problem, it was all it had.  Stores were effected by this too.  Some stores, like KB games refused to sell any kind of Sega product.  This lingering issues tarnished Sega\'s reputation and carried over to the Dreamcast.  EA continued to boycott Sega which meant DC\'s library, just like the Saturn, was thin (not having Madden was a huge blow IMO).

From a gamer perspective there was nothing wrong with the consoles per say.  I am actually in the process of collecting some nostalgic systems for my own personal collection.  Saturn and DC are right at the top of my list (along with the Atari Jaguar lol).  If Sega\'s higher ups hadn\'t been such idiots who knows what could have been.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2008, 06:57:26 PM »
interesting stories Mr. Kennedy.  Didn\'t know Sega pisses off stores like Wal-Mart and KB as they didn\'t shipped the Saturn to those stores for the initial launch.

I would like to add this, according to Wiki:

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The early launch also meant that the Saturn had only a handful of games available at the moment, as most third party games were slated to be completed and rolled out around the original September 2nd launch date, and as many successful Japanese titles were not imported. Third party publishers, particularly these based in North America, were angered as the surprise launch prevented them from capitalizing on the momentum inherent in an anticipated, planned release. Essentially the only software available on the shelves at launch was software released by Sega. Many within the gaming industry viewed the early launch as a calculated move to give Sega larger sales of Saturn software at the expense of independent developers.

In addition, the retailers who were not included in the early launch (most notably Wal-Mart and KB Toys) felt betrayed, with some retaliating by supporting Sega\'s rivals. This resulted in Sega having difficulties with these distributors for the Saturn (and also for its successor, the Dreamcast). As an example: the leadership within KB Toys were so angered by Sega\'s actions that they refused to release the Saturn at all and even actually going as far as having some retailers removing anything Sega-related in stores, providing more retail space in many American shopping malls for the Saturn\'s competition instead.

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...It also suffered in North America from the policies delivered by former Sega of America president Bernie Stolar; such policies stated the condemnation of games such as RPGs, with Bernie proclaiming that RPGs would not be popular with American consumers (despite the fact that Final Fantasy VII for the PlayStation was a huge success for both Japan and North America alike), and 2D games as Stolar stated that they could not display the full graphical potential of the Saturn.
Wow, I guess whoever is in charge of marketing video games should be open minded about these kind of stuffs.  I guess that\'s another big reason Sega should learn about not allowing RPG games support on Saturn.

 

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