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Offline Coredweller
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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2009, 08:29:10 AM »
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Awful numbers. Muhfucker can\'t even play a full season. But then again I\'m arguing with someone that think this guy should be in the top 10 over Shaq and Kobe.
Awful numbers?  Career per game:
             FG%  3P%  FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS
K. Bryant    .455 .341 .840 5.3 4.6 1.5 0.6 2.9 25.1
M. Maravich  .441 .667 .820 4.2 5.4 1.4 0.3 3.7 24.2

He\'s looking kinda like Kobe.  The game was more violent in the 70s, I\'m sure more injuries would be expected.
 
BTW he attained 24.2 PPG without a 3 point line for 9 of his 10 seasons.  he was consistently in the 20s year after year, even got 31 PPG in 1977.
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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2009, 08:45:30 AM »
His assists aren\'t even that impressive when you realize he probably committed 3-4 TO\'s per game.

How many times did his teams enter the playoffs? How many rings did he win? Did he have another top ten all time player beside him during these periods?

What does this guy have that earns him a top 10 spot over Kobe and Shaq? hE\'S WHITE AND MADE COOL PASSES? Go to a basketball forum and claim Pete Maravich is a top ten player and you will probably be banned for trolling.
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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2009, 10:21:13 AM »
Pistol Pete is probably one of my top five favorite players, but I have to agree with Jumpman that he is not top ten. I\'d place him in the top 50 though.

In other news....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4281291

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« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2009, 10:23:42 AM »
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But like always everyone will suck on MJ\'s harry balls.


When did he take Harry\'s balls?
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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2009, 10:36:51 AM »
First you claim awful numbers, now he probably had a bunch of TO.  Whatever you choose, stick with it.
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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2009, 10:46:28 AM »
I can throw whatever the fuck I want out there cause nothing supports the idea that Pete is a top ten player.

And my numbers point is based on his inefficient scoring. Ie, FG% and TS% which is an advanced stat cause I\'m that into basketball and I\'m willing to bet I know more about the NBA than anyone on this board and go fuck yourself.

That RJ trade is a fucking steal for SA too. If they can use their MLE to sign someone like Sheed then I\'d say they\'re a step below the LA/Cle level and on par with Orl/Boston. Contenders again. All of this depends on Duncan\'s and Manu\'s health though.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2009, 10:51:35 AM by Jumpman »
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« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2009, 11:31:27 AM »
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And for the record Lebron James IS the undisputed best NBA player right now. While I think Kobe is #2, Chris Paul and Dwayne Wade could be considered better than him at this point.



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And for the record Lebron James Is the 2nd best player in the NBA player right now. While Kobe is #1, Chris Paul and Dwayne Wade could be considered #3 and #4.


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There is noway on god\'s green earth you can compare chris paul and wade to Kobe. Kobe has 4 rings Wade has 1 and Paul has none. Kobe has proven each year he is one of the best to ever do it. While I do believe lebron is good. He showed this year in the post season why he is not better than kobe.

There is a fact that the man is great. Ask any of the top NBA greats the guy is one the best and is always considered by everyone the closes thing to MJ. In my opinion is has weapons MJ did not have.
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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2009, 11:42:12 AM »
When I say Lebron is the best player now I\'m saying he is the most effective and efficient player in basketball. IE, someone that a team could acquire to make that team the best it could be. Kobe\'s been that guy for the past 4-5 years or so but not anymore.
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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2009, 07:35:09 PM »
Jumpman, why do you think the Spurs aren\'t on the same level as Boston and Orlando already? I really want to know.

I keep hearing this on NBA forums and the only reasoning I heard was in reference to their exit in the first round this year. It seems like everyone forgot Ginobili was out, and I don\'t need to explain how critical that is.
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« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2009, 08:29:21 PM »
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There is noway on god\'s green earth you can compare chris paul and wade to Kobe. Kobe has 4 rings Wade has 1 and Paul has none. Kobe has proven each year he is one of the best to ever do it. While I do believe lebron is good. He showed this year in the post season why he is not better than kobe.

There is a fact that the man is great. Ask any of the top NBA greats the guy is one the best and is always considered by everyone the closes thing to MJ. In my opinion is has weapons MJ did not have.


Kobe can thank Shaq for 3 of his rings.  Those were Shaq\'s teams, at a time when Shaq was easily twice the player Kobe was.

You can easily argue Wade\'s a comparable player.

And all LeBron showed is he can\'t do it himself.  LeBron is clearly the better player right now.

And comparing Kobe to Jordan?  Please.  That\'s just laughable.
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« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2009, 08:31:13 PM »
Also, for the record, Bird or Magic were also much better players than Kobe, and Pistol Pete as a top 10 player ever is laughable as well.
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« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2009, 04:06:41 AM »
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Jumpman, why do you think the Spurs aren\'t on the same level as Boston and Orlando already? I really want to know.

I keep hearing this on NBA forums and the only reasoning I heard was in reference to their exit in the first round this year. It seems like everyone forgot Ginobili was out, and I don\'t need to explain how critical that is.

No I said I do think they are on par with Bos/Orl. I probably should add the Nuggets to that list. Houston/Portland the next level down.

Problem is the West drastically favours who ever lands the 1st. Unless you\'re the Lakers, not an easy road to the Conf finals, and even then you\'ll have to play Hous/Portland in the 2nd round. Denver vs SA in the 2nd round sounds like its inevitable now. Lakers barely squeaked by them. They match up well with the Spurs too. Solid big rotation, tough wing players (Melo emerged this playoffs), and a leader in Chauncey. Same thing in the East though. Win 1st seed and take a seat in the Conf Finals.

RJ helps SA acquire another legit talent, but he becomes the 4th option on that team. Can he handle that roll? Assuming his defense improves by say 10-15%, he still remains as an upgrade over Michael Finley. They lack talent at the big positions. Matt Bonner? LOL. If they use their MLE to snag Rasheed or Marcin Gortat, then I can see SA as a more serious contender. Duncan\'s and Manu\'s health dictates their success regardless. 33 (turning 34) and 32 next year. I love Parker and consider him in the 10-15th range of best overall players in the NBA right now, but he carried the team toward the end of the season and they couldn\'t beat Dallas with him as the main option.
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« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2009, 05:29:58 AM »
Wizards are the greatest team in all of sports history. Even before the invention of basketball.
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« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2009, 06:29:02 AM »
Right now I\'d say its going to be

1. Cleveland
2. Orlando
3. Boston
4. Atlanta
5. Washington
6. Philly
7. Miami
8. Charlotte

But I suspect Detroit jumps into contention if they acquire some big names with all their cap room this summer.

1. LA
2. SA
3. Denver
4. Houston
5. Portland
6. Utah
7. Dallas
8. New Orleans
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« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2009, 07:19:55 AM »
Go Bulls?
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