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Konami to direct 70% to Sony...
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2001, 10:35:19 PM »
Wow, a flame war in my little thread?  Sheesh.  Fact is, Konami\'s president says 70% for PSX/PS2 and lots of support for the GBA, which has already shown as soon as you look at the launch lineup for it\'s Japanese release.  I\'d post all the titles, but I\'m sure Jumpman can handle that much more efficiently then I could.  I kinda dont feel like swimming in the ign.handhelds archives today anyways.  As for the 10 game thing, here\'s a quote from the president of Konami:

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Konami is less sure about the X-box. Kitaue believes that it will gain a solid market share in the U.S., but questioned how profitable the machine will be for Microsoft.

"Games for Xbox don\'t figure much in our plans for next year\'\' to March 2002, he said. Devoting resources to game development for the new console is "risky, as the company has not shown us a clear business strategy,\'\' Kitaue told Bloomberg news.

Last September, Konami said it plans to develop more than 10 X-box games a year, but Konami appears to share some of the skepticism other Japanese developers have with the X-box.


Last September they had PLANNED to develop 10 games per year, yet releasing them is a different story.  When these games see the light of day is still unknown at this time.  I\'m not saying they\'ll never be released or that they\'ll be canceled, I\'m just saying that Konami has quite a few things to consider when it comes to releasing their titles.  Their BeMani series is VERY popular in Japan, but their analysts, which reside within the company and do not come from a 3rd party source, predict the X-Box to sell well in America, but rather scarcely in Japan and when Konami considers that factor into its franchise series and its target demographic and sales, you can understand their concern with the decisions of MS concerning their consoles release.  BeMani is popular in the arcades and home consoles in Japan and if MS won\'t back them as heavily in Japan, then who will Konami turn to?  That\'s right, the company they are dedicating 70% of their manpower to.

Look, this is not to bash MS, but from all accounts, the American people are certainly going to get the best end of the deal, along with American developers.  EA is going to bank off of it for sure and I think this generation will profit them moreso then any other company, but when it comes to Japanese based developers and European developers, they\'re getting the shaft and so far, Sony is the main player to turn to with those factors taken into consideration.  If you want a successful console, you have to appeal to all demographics and MS just isn\'t doing it when you consider delays in Europe and wavering Japanese 3rd party support.
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2001, 10:38:46 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2001, 10:46:10 PM »
Konami has games coming to the Xbox. Thats a given. But did it say that they are coming this year? Nope.

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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2001, 10:50:13 PM »
gota love people who can\'t read.


Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well

my point was mgs x would be better than mgs2.

they pprobably had to delay xbox games because of the crap ps2 programming.
to there are ways to give the illusion of AA,without having to take cuts in performance,and some developers are are taking advantage of themhowever ,until SOny comes up with a specific and easy ways to implement true AA that dosent take major hits on performance,you probably wont be seeing a huge number of games take advantage of it.

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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2001, 11:01:22 PM »
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gota love people who can\'t read.


Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well

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Of coarse Jaggies, your supposing that MGSX is MGS2.
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2001, 11:06:13 PM »
And supposing that MGSX gets improved over MGS2. Neither of which, has been confirmed! MGSX is, but what it is, and how great it is, hasn\'t. :rolleyes:

Don\'t post speculation without facts to back you up and say we are all wrong!
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Re: Of coarse Jaggies, your supposing that MGSX is MGS2.
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2001, 11:12:17 PM »
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And supposing that MGSX gets improved over MGS2. Neither of which, has been confirmed! MGSX is, but what it is, and how great it is, hasn\'t. :rolleyes:

Don\'t post speculation without facts to back you up and say we are all wrong!


no kidding, some people just assume mgsx will be better than mgs2 because they want to believe it soooooo bad.
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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2001, 11:29:14 PM »
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Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well

my point was mgs x would be better than mgs2.


Support, meaning develop 10 titles.  When these games get released or how many people will actually work on the titles is still unknown.  If I was drawing some sketches for an upcoming x-box game, I\'m sure as hell starting development, but that doesn\'t mean I have 30 people working on it with me and it\'s going to be out in 8 months.

Also, like people said above, MGSX hasn\'t been shown, it hasn\'t even been confirmed yet as far as content goes and people are already saying "it\'s going to be better."  Well how about this Mr negative PS2, what if the game is EXACTLY the same?  Given the amount of information given, that\'s the best anyone can assume.  You can throw tech specs at me all you want, but with all that has been said, tech specs don\'t make games any better then they already are.  The PC version of MGS, even with all the smoothed textures and whatnot still isn\'t any better then the PSX version because, quite simply, it\'s still the same game.
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« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2001, 11:33:45 PM »
can\'t port ps2 code. it won\'t be the same because they guy making it said xbox does better lighting and shadows.
to there are ways to give the illusion of AA,without having to take cuts in performance,and some developers are are taking advantage of themhowever ,until SOny comes up with a specific and easy ways to implement true AA that dosent take major hits on performance,you probably wont be seeing a huge number of games take advantage of it.

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« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2001, 11:53:14 PM »
So, better lighting and shadows means a better game?  I\'m sorry, refer back to my previous post about MGS on PC and PSX.  MGS on PC has the GF2 and that has some great damn effects that dwarf the PSX in SO MANY WAYS, yet both games are the same.  That pretty much puts that to rest.
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« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2001, 11:56:17 PM »
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can\'t port ps2 code. it won\'t be the same because they guy making it said xbox does better lighting and shadows.
They (Hideo Kojima) also said that they weren\'t going to work on the Xbox version until MGS2 for PlayStation 2 was completed. And all territories are getting MGS 2 this year (although at the end of it), so I seriously doubt Xbox is gonna see a MGS game anytime soon - it would have to be 2002 at the soonest (at least that\'s what it looks like ATM).
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« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2001, 02:32:28 AM »
I think alot of japanese developers,will support Xbox like they did the dreamcast,there will be a few game but not loads,from top developers like Namco,or Capcom.
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« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2001, 03:29:41 AM »
Konami commits 70% of its resources towards PS2 and PSX.......maybe they think it\'s the better choice they could do :D......
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« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2001, 10:57:56 AM »
Ten titles out of a hundred is a small commitment by Konami.  That makes sense; put the money where the games are.  Both Jumpman and jaggies are right.  Jumpman says that Konami will be giving Sony the majority of the titles while Xbox only get\'s ten.  You two were agreeing with one another without knowing it! :D  It figures out this way:

PS2: 30%(30 games)
PSX: 40% (40 games)
GBA:15%(15 games)
GameCube: 5%(5 games)
Xbox: 10%(10 games)

Looks right to me.  You people act like everyone expected Konami just to drop PS2 and develop for GC and Xbox.  If not, then why is this topic worthy to be posted.  The PSX has 80 million units world-wide and to not develop for it would be throwing money away.  Xbox and GC aren\'t out yet so of course support for them will be minimal at first.  Did you think Konami dropped the PSX because of the PS2?  No!  They go where the money is and right now it isn\'t clear how Xbox and GC will do because they still have about 7 months until launch.  

However, keep in mind that Konami and Microsoft have a Square/EA type relationship(MS publishes Konami PC games) and that Konami were the first supporters of the Xbox.  Hell, they even purchased 100 dev kits.  That\'s no small investment folks.  Expect Xbox support to become more robust as the picture gets clearer.
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« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2001, 11:08:43 AM »
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gota love people who can\'t read.


Konami is also planning to support the Xbox with ten titles this year as well

my point was mgs x would be better than mgs2.

they pprobably had to delay xbox games because of the crap ps2 programming.


Hideo Kojima stated in NextGen magazine that they are already calling it(MGSX) MGS1.5 around the office. There are of course people working on MGSX right now but not enough to make a dent. It is highly unlikely that we will see MGSX before next spring. Xbox needs to show us the killer-app that it will launch with and MGSX aint it.
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