i honestly wouldn\'t celebrate anything till the console is released, but i will love my ps2 none the less, they are unsure that will make it, but they aren\'t 100% out of wack hands down sure it wont make it, the pics were prom a second gen x box, with only a g force three, the graphics will get better, but the games are what will make or break the console in the end. wich is what also makes me wonder, look at the ps2\'s first launch games, and evne latly they all suck, not all of them, but only a few jewels have stood out since the release, so if x box comes out with some crappy games, what will stop it there, theyw ill make better ones, like the ps2 is doing. we will not be sure till its release, it\'s not over till the fat console sings.