Konami talks XBOX!!! (interview!)

What\'s with this "PC graphics" bullsh*t!?? Is there even a such thing, fatson?  Are "PC graphics" high-resolution, high-poly, anit-aliased and high frame rate?  If that\'s what you mean by "PC-graphics", then what\'s wrong with that.  Now if you said "PS2 graphics" I\'d get pretty pissed off!

[GmanJoe]

It\'s current PC technology and giving it more horsepower. Kinda like adding more displacement to a push rod muscle car.

Nope.

PC graphics= dull textures, few colours, low polygon (look at Halos landscape), few details, steril.
I think PC games look and fell dead, in some way..

/FAST

Originally posted by DirectXbox


What\'s your definition of "revolutionary"?  Does revolutionary mean "radical" to you?  Does something have to be DIFFERENT to be revolutionary.  I think Xbox is revolutionary because it gives the developer the tool to create revolutionary CONTENT...oh yeah, with good graphics too.  PS2 may change the way we LOOK at games but Xbox gives developers the chance to change the ACTUAL GAME CONTENT and put the games industry where the movie industry is...not just a kids thing, but a mainstream thing.  The HDD and the broadband are not revolutionary in themselves, but when you combine them with a revolutionary graphics engine, the whole is greater than the sum of it\'s parts.  Developers can do so much more with Xbox because of these two features.  Sure, PS2 will have them...eventually, but if it\'s not in every box, developers won\'t care.  

When Kojima was talking about "revolutionary" he was being facetious.  "Revolutionary" has a different meaning for everyone.  Kojima thinks the PS9 is "revolutionary".  Just sniff some spores and you\'re off to PS9 land playing GT12!

Ok dont be angry.
Revolutionary is something new.So its different.Not just different but it brings things we havent seen before.

I think Xbox is revolutionary because it gives the developer the tool to create revolutionary CONTENT...oh yeah, with good graphics too[/quotre]

PS2 may change the way we LOOK at games but Xbox gives developers the chance to change the ACTUAL GAME CONTENT and put the games industry where the movie industry is...not just a kids thing, but a mainstream thing.

Yeah I suppose PS2 is a kids thing...

Explain me what is this CONTENT.How is this content?Why cant the PS2 do it?How is it going to put the games industry where the movie industry is?For example MGS2 is movie-like.The only think I can think the XBOX can add to MGSX is better graphics.

The HDD and the broadband are not revolutionary in themselves, but when you combine them with a revolutionary graphics engine, the whole is greater than the sum of it\'s parts. Developers can do so much more with Xbox because of these two features. Sure, PS2 will have them...eventually, but if it\'s not in every box, developers won\'t care.

HDD and Broadband?Nobody mentioned those 2 in this thread as revolutionary.
Ok then.Lets talk about these too.With HD and Broadband revolutionary PS2 can be called as the first console to have these.It offers nothing phenomenally to gaming.
Now lets talk about the HDD possibilities.Harrison talked about possibilities of being able to save a contition fom r agm=game which would change later while you progress.
Example:In an RPG You could write something on a small tree save the tree in the contition you left it and after some time visit the place were the tree was only to realise its bigger and older and what you wrote is still written on the tree.
Thats a possibility though not something that  it is sure  we will see it.

When Kojima was talking about "revolutionary" he was being facetious. "Revolutionary" has a different meaning for everyone. Kojima thinks the PS9 is "revolutionary". Just sniff some spores and you\'re off to PS9 land playing GT12!

So is XBOX13 and GC20.PS9 sticks nowhere in the disgussion.

He didnt mention PS9 in this article.Differently he means revolutionary in the interview I posted and differently he means in the part you mentioned.
I am mainly talking about this link

You know Xbox wont get online in atleast 2 years. (2003)

/FAST

Originally posted by fastson
You know Xbox wont get online in atleast 2 years. (2003)

Yes...IN JAPAN (the leaked document was for Japanese developers).

This is not suprising, given the current state of broadband support in Japan, just read the comments in that same article;

"IMAMURA: We’ll be using the Xbox HD for quicker game play, that means pre-loading the game into the HD. The game will certainly load faster than the PS2 version. But in terms of other features, you know, no matter how the hardware improves, creators still need to think about how to fit their imaginations into these systems. These are still problems, even with Xbox. The network isn’t really ready for it. In terms of broadband, the infrastructure here in Japan is still so slow.

IGN: Tell me about it. It’s taken four months just to get signed up with DSL here.

IMAMURA: [laughs] I know!"


We have to wait and see regarding the US and Europe.

Xbox dosnt offer anything new.

Originally posted by fastson
Xbox dosnt offer anything new.

Depends on how you define new!

Sony promised a revolution, movie like graphics and characters with real emotions! So one year after the launch in Japan, where are they? Even now the PS2 games which most gamers are excited about are updates of previous PSX games (MGS2 and GT3!). Sure they would be awesome, but revolutionary they are not.

Console hardware doesn\'t need to be revolutionary, it just needs to be as powerful as possible BUT easy to program. THIS is the environment which will allow games developers to concentrate more on creating games rather than wrestling with the hardware. This is the environment that has the most potential for  providing a revolution in our games. This is why I more favour the XBox!

Anyway, I\'ll be back after some info from TGS. Enjoy the show everyone, whichever console you prefer!

Originally posted by Dr Yassam


I\'ll take power over innovation anyday. [/Q


Maybe you should consider what you just said...  If it wasn\'t for innovation, we wouldn\'t be using computers, just a larger abacus.  Inovation is good, It is good that Sony s dabbling in dynamic architecture.  It is more versitile and potentially much more efficient.

Nope, it\'s for the same reasons why MGS2 couldn\'t be ported straight onto the XBox (or any other platform). Because many things have to be done so differently on the PS2, the only way to achieve similar results on other platforms is via a complete re-write! i.e. a new game engine for a different architecture written from scratch.

Wrong again, it\'s because with PS2 they can do many more things how THEY want them to be done...which means SH2 on PS2 will be far more unique.

It\'s was IMAMURA\'S opinion based on HIS perception only, that doesn\'t mean he\'s right, or that he speaks for the WHOLE of Konami!

He works for konami, he is the lead guy of the SH2 project...his view is as good as fact.....Must i go and get those countless links where konami think PS2 will win and xbox will fail?

i guess since the CEO of konami is just one man, his opinion that PS2 will be the winner and xbox the pathetic loser is worthless correct?...give me a damn break.

What about Lorne\'s comments about the PS2 and the reasons he switched developement of Munch\'s Oddysee onto the XBox. I guess that sums up PS2 developement then...right?

The same people who have never done a 3D engine before? the same people who only have a pathetic 3.6mpps in their xbox game?...

What about Bioware\'s claims of texture streaming on the PS2 compared to what they actually delivered (MDK2). I guess that confirms TS on the PS2 is not as good as they claim then...right?

Nice try, you do not meantion the FACT that later in development they were getting "more texture memory than we know what do with".... nice selective hearing you have;)

And what about Hideo\'s numerous comments about the difficulties, problems and disappointments he\'s experienced with the PS2. I guess that confirms the PS2 is a b**** to program and not as powerful as many thought then...right?

He said his expectations where too high....not that  PS2 was a disappointment, MGS2 speaks for it\'s self....something you will have to wait almost 2 years for on your xbox..if you get MGS2;)

(Naughty Dog\'s claims may the next to add to that list....we\'ll see. )

My point? You can\'t just take the words of one individual from one developer as the absolute facts or representative of the console in general!. Sure they are the experts, but they also have their own motivations and reasons behind any comments they make.

Bill gates comments=worthless
seamus comments-worthless
j allard comments-worthless

i guess according to you dr yassam their word\'s are about as worthless as a penny on saks fith avenue right?

hey, i like this...i can just ignore what ever they say about xbox because they are only one person...

Bill gates comments=worthless
seamus comments-worthless
j allard comments-worthless

Here\'s what we think:

Nplayers comments=worthless.

The funny sh*t about this is that PS2 fanboys thinks Kojima dissed the Xbox here when he said "offers nothing new"...however, the unbiased person knows that Kojima was being facetious!  Smell in next generation consoles!!!! He\'s being sarcastic!

WOW..you can read his mind? can you show me that? MORON....it offers nothing new,nothing different,nothing intresting...and only pathetic moron xbox zealots like you can\'t see that...

Little does Kojima-san know that Digiscents does have a device that emits smells while you\'re playing games.

Is this on any console? it\'s not? well then that is why he said he wish he had this....

Plus that thing about PC-like games on Xbox has nothing to do with the hardware, but rather the DEVELOPER!  Some people on here are so stupid and gullable that they believe everything some producer says.

Boy, will we have many PC-like games with PCish graphics on xbox:D

That was his OPINION!!!  PC-style games have nothing to do with the Xbox hardware, rather it has a lot to do with Microsoft allowing such games on the Xbox.

Quality control? i really hate it when a stupid company has to silence the creative minds of developers..i\'m glad sony does not do this....

Xbox may have PC-styled games, but I\'ll be damned if Microsoft releases them in Japan!  The chance of that happening is the same chance that Giants and QIII: Revolution for PS2 will be released in Japan.  Microsoft won\'t let it happen.

what is HALO doing at TGS then? ...

That Konami guy was talking out of his ass...but I don\'t mind since we\'ll be getting Silent Hill 2 later this year.   I can say this because the Japanese version is on schedule for the Xbox launch in Japan, so we in America should get the game around that time too.  PS2 should get it earlier, but it will be good for comparison purposes.

I bet if he insulted and slamed PS2 like he did xbox you would be praising his comments...right reverendxbox?

Originally posted by Unicron!



Ok dont be angry.
Revolutionary is something new.So its different.Not just different but it brings things we havent seen before.

Oh, I\'m not angry, I just wanted to know what you meant by "revolutionary".  According to your logic, square wheels are revolutionary.  Also they are a step back, they are different and it brings something we haven\'t seen before.

Yeah I suppose PS2 is a kids thing...

You misunderstood me.  I wasn\'t talking about the PS2, I was talking about the image of videogames in general.

Explain me what is this CONTENT.How is this content?Why cant the PS2 do it?How is it going to put the games industry where the movie industry is?For example MGS2 is movie-like.The only think I can think the XBOX can add to MGSX is better graphics.

The central idea of my post was not the revolution of graphics like the PS2, but the revolution in CONTENT.  What I mean by that is focusing on the storyline and the overall game instead of wrestling with hardware.  Why reinvent the wheel?  Xbox\'s philosophy is this: "Okay, we\'ll give you the same tools you\'re used to, but we\'ll make them more powerful".  PS2\'s philosophy is, "Here\'s a powerful tool...but it\'s only powerful if you use it right...now figure it out!"  The result of that philosophy is PSX games with better graphics.  

HDD and Broadband?Nobody mentioned those 2 in this thread as revolutionary.
Ok then.Lets talk about these too.With HD and Broadband revolutionary PS2 can be called as the first console to have these.It offers nothing phenomenally to gaming.
Now lets talk about the HDD possibilities.Harrison talked about possibilities of being able to save a contition fom r agm=game which would change later while you progress.
Example:In an RPG You could write something on a small tree save the tree in the contition you left it and after some time visit the place were the tree was only to realise its bigger and older and what you wrote is still written on the tree.
Thats a possibility though not something that  it is sure  we will see it.

English must not be your first language because you misunderstood me again.  I don\'t know how I could make what I just said more clearer.  You don\'t have to explain to me the benefits of a HDD and ethernet adapter...and please, don\'t offend me by quoting that goddam SCEI marionette, Phil Harrison.  

I was saying that the HDD + Ethernet + XGPU makes the Xbox revolutionary...not just one of them alone.  They are tools that give developers more options and flexibility to improve the experience for the end user.  

So is XBOX13 and GC20.PS9 sticks nowhere in the disgussion.

This proves one of two things:  Either you don\'t live in the U.S.,  or Sony hasn\'t been advertising enough.  PS9 came from the U.S. PS2 comercial...I know, I don\'t get it either.    

He didnt mention PS9 in this article.Differently he means revolutionary in the interview I posted and differently he means in the part you mentioned.
I am mainly talking about this link

Yeah...and chickens with bazooka\'s don\'t sing Mary Poppins when the wind blows from the east too ( yeah, I can\'t understand you either ).

Originally posted by fastson
Nope.

PC graphics= dull textures, few colours, low polygon (look at Halos landscape), few details, steril.
I think PC games look and fell dead, in some way..

/FAST

In that case PS2 has "PC-graphics" too.  You should have seen GT2000 when it was first unvieled...PC graphics all the way!    I bet the 20% version of MGS2 had "PC-graphics" too.  Quake III has "PC graphics" too.  Wow...PS2 must be a PC!  I should have never bought it!  Damn, I knew those USB ports weren\'t for GAME RELATED STUFF. :rolleyes: