New Test-drive Screens For The Xbox!!!!amazing

you destroyed ugly\'s agend with-out him ever even knowing...well done

The sad part is nobody cares what you have to say, and I’m sure SONYFAN and everyone else here, could care less weather you agree with them or not, cause you my LOSER friend have no credibility at ALL. LOL, LOL

"Sonyfan i respect your point of view here, but wew will never really know untill xbox is released. When this happens we will be able to see what develpers have done with the games, having used the final hardware." -OhGodlyThing

Actually, the launch games will most likely be all rush jobs and not a good representitive of the consoles true power by any means. Just look at the graphical leap from Omnimusha to Devil May Cry. I\'m just wondering if graphics for the Xbox will remain static throughout it\'s life, or if they\'ll improve in the same manner as the PSX, Saturn, N64, and other consoles have. After all, most people programming for the Xbox already know all the in\'s and outs and it\'s really just a matter of becomming familiar with a slightly different and significantly beefed up Geforce GPU. How long will that take?, a year and a half at the most?



"HEH!!...i am very pleased with your actions sonyfan...you destroyed ugly\'s agend with-out him ever even knowing...well done" Nplayer-2

Ugh, why do I suddenly feel so dirty? Seriously, noone cares about your little crusade against the Xbox so why not just drop it and try becoming a productive member of these forums for a change?

its a shame that no matter how pretty the test drive series becomes, the gameplay will still always be poop

its a shame that no matter how pretty the test drive series becomes, the gameplay will still always be poop

Do you remember the one for DC, it\'s was horrible, all they did was port the game from psx, and beef up the graphics a tab bit. Worst DC racer i ever played

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Originally posted by mm
its a shame that no matter how pretty the test drive series becomes, the gameplay will still always be poop

Bingo, man.

While everyone is arguin\' about how the game looks, the gameplay was total crap always. Ugh.

But as it stands, the Xbox version does look alittle better (just barely). Still, if the game is crap, I could care less. And if its TestDrive, it is almost guranteed to be......CRAP.

I won\'t comment on the gameplay, as the only TD I\'ve played was 4 (?) on PSone, and I loved that.... but as for the screen Sonyfan(boy) and BiozEE the jester, the FACT is the XB shots show a noticeably higher quality, and are done on incomplete kits, as opposed to the PS2 version, which has been done on 100% complete kits that have been available for quite some time. Another FACT is nothing PS2 offered thus far (MGS2 demo omitted) is much better than DC can do. In fact, with some games (UT, MDK2, etc) the PS2 versions are WORSE. This is very unlikely to happen to XB, as its not out and is already on par or in some cases outperforming PS2. Why are people arguing about it? XB has better hardware period. Get the **** over it. I  don\'t care if this is a PS2 forum, stupidity has no excuse.

And anyone who thinks I\'ve been too harsh in the past, brace yourselves. I\'m not going to hold back anymore.... if I think your a ignorant **** face like Nplayer, I\'m gonna say it.

Some strong and weak arguments in there, Ethugg.

Another FACT is nothing PS2 offered thus far (MGS2 demo omitted) is much better than DC can do. In fact, with some games (UT, MDK2, etc) the PS2 versions are WORSE.

We can\'t blame the PS2 because it\'s just a machine. The developers should be holded responsible for that.

This is very unlikely to happen to XB, as its not out and is already on par or in some cases outperforming PS2. Why are people arguing about it? XB has better hardware period. Get the **** over it. I don\'t care if this is a PS2 forum, stupidity has no excuse.

While I think your right, we have to wait till E3 for more proof. So far the graphical capabilities of the Xbox are nothing impressive. MGS2 easily beats any Xbox game so far.

I found an old article with Silicon Knights and they said that their projects on NGC look better than anything they\'ve seen on PS2 and Xbox so far...interesting. NGC might have the best graphics. Who knows? Wait till E3.

Originally posted by Jumpman
Some strong and weak arguments in there, Ethugg.


We can\'t blame the PS2 because it\'s just a machine. The developers should be holded responsible for that.


While I think your right, we have to wait till E3 for more proof. So far the graphical capabilities of the Xbox are nothing impressive. MGS2 easily beats any Xbox game so far.

I found an old article with Silicon Knights and they said that their projects on NGC look better than anything they\'ve seen on PS2 and Xbox so far...interesting. NGC might have the best graphics. Who knows? Wait till E3.

I don\'t blame PS2, I blame Sony and developers.

And while I respect Silicon Knights, they were bought by Nintendo, no? I think GC and XB will be comparable (in graphics) while PS2 trails behind. I have a PS2, and will never sell it, so trust me, anyone who thinks I\'m a PS2 hater is dead wrong.

I don\'t blame PS2, I blame Sony and developers.

I mainly blame Sony for not getting full development kits out on time...

And while I respect Silicon Knights, they were bought by Nintendo, no?

While they have often express their feelings in a positive way for other consoles they are still a Ninendo 2nd party. But all of the people who said Xbox will look better are either 2nd or 1st parties so who knows? And no one has seen what they\'ve been up to. Ah well, we will have our answers at E3.

I think GC and XB will be comperable (in graphics) while PS2 trails behind.

Agreed.

Ethugg, I think you need to just calm the **** down and pay a little more attention to what\'s being said. You totally missed the boat on what it was I was trying to say. The point is, it dosen\'t matter if those shots are done on 50% or 100% complete hardware since you cannot use those examples to base the Xbox\'s margin of superiority. It\'s flawed logic plain and simple. Never once did I say that the Xbox was less powerful than the PS2 (Although I do think the PS2 will surprise us in the comming years and keep a pretty good pace with MS). The fanboy comment was also uncalled for, since most people here could attest to me being a gamer first, and an excitied Sony and Sega gamer second. (Actually, I\'m a Sierra gamer first, Gamer second, Sony and Sega gamer third.. or something like that...)

I mean, excuse the hell out of me for not bending over backwards with anticipation for the Xbox. We can\'t all lavish praise over it 24/7 ya know.

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Originally posted by EThugg

I won\'t comment on the gameplay, as the only TD I\'ve played was 4 (?) on PSone, and I loved that.... but as for the screen Sonyfan(boy) and BiozEE the jester, the FACT is the XB shots show a noticeably higher quality, and are done on incomplete kits, as opposed to the PS2 version, which has been done on 100% complete kits that have been available for quite some time.

Dear EThugg,I see you can\'t understand what I said...so...for the last time...I\'ll try....
The X-Box has a familiar,friendly hardware(P3,INvidia) and although the early X-Box games are developed on incomplete kits,you still can have a good idea of the kind of graphics you\'ll see in the final product!
Some of the most talented developer on the Planet,just now,are using less than 50% of the power of the PS2...so...how much power of PS2 do you think the developers of Test Drive are using? Honestly? ...20%...25%...15%...I don\'t know....
The only Thing I know is that a game like GT3(using less than 50% of the real performance of PS2) hands down blow away the best looking x-box racing game !

 Another FACT is nothing PS2 offered thus far (MGS2 demo omitted) is much better than DC can do. In fact, with some games (UT, MDK2, etc) the PS2 versions are WORSE. This is very unlikely to happen to XB, as its not out and is already on par or in some cases outperforming PS2. Why are people arguing about it? XB has better hardware period. Get the **** over it. I  don\'t care if this is a PS2 forum, stupidity has no excuse.

....mmm....PS2 IS DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP FOR SO AT FIRST developers used nothing of its capabilities ! They skipped the Vector Units and didn\'t stream textures! This is the reason why first PS2 games didn\'t look much better than DC\'s ! You are a Fool !  why?  although you are right when you say X-Box can do better graphics(1 year and half of advantage),you suggest sterile and weak arguments to prove your point!
X-Box will be a Great Console and it doesn\'t need your moronic support !

And anyone who thinks I\'ve been too harsh in the past, brace yourselves. I\'m not going to hold back anymore.... if I think your a ignorant **** face like Nplayer, I\'m gonna say it.

Close your mouth and try to be a productive member instead of bursting into each thread only to sing x-box praises or to sling mud at PS2(...and you said "I\' ve got a PS2"...."I\'m a gamer"...or....and bla bla)...You are only an hypocrite,BS,not-productive member and most of people here think exactly like me !


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Originally posted by BizioEE


Dear EThugg,I see you can\'t understand what I said...so...for the last time...I\'ll try....
The X-Box has a familiar,friendly hardware(P3,INvidia) and although the early X-Box games are developed on incomplete kits,you still can have a good idea of the kind of graphics you\'ll see in the final product!
Some of the most talented developer on the Planet,just now,are using less than 50% of the power of the PS2...so...how much power of PS2 do you think the developers of Test Drive are using? Honestly? ...20%...25%...15%...I don\'t know....
The only Thing I know is that a game like GT3(using less than 50% of the real performance of PS2) hands down blow away the best looking x-box racing game !




....mmm....PS2 IS DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP FOR SO AT FIRST developers used nothing of its capabilities ! They skipped the Vector Units and didn\'t stream textures! This is the reason why first PS2 games didn\'t look much better than DC\'s ! You are a Fool !  why?  although you are right when you say X-Box can do better graphics(1 year and half of advantage),you suggest sterile and weak arguments to prove your point!
X-Box will be a Great Console and it doesn\'t need your moronic support !



Close your mouth and try to be a productive member instead of bursting into each thread only to sing x-box praises or to sling mud at PS2(...and you said "I\' ve got a PS2"...."I\'m a gamer"...or....and bla bla)...You are only an hypocrite,BS,not-productive member and most of people here think exactly like me !


 

The hardwares only familiar to PC developers, not console developers 1st of all jackass, and while it\'s easier to dev. for XB, these shots from TD are unlikely using more than 10 % of XB\'s power. I am SURE it\'s using more than 10% of PS2\'s power because, earth to jackass, XB IS MORE POWERFUL! And GT3, hands down does NOT blow every XB racer out of the water. Every racer on it is very early and some look as good as GT3 already.

.....mmmmm... PS2 IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO DEV FOR!!! I give 2 ****s about you saviour the vector units. Saturn had plenty of great chips that developers didnt use cause IT WAS TOO ****ING DIFFICULT! And like Saturn vs PSX, developers WILL flock to the easier and more powerful system to develop for, and this time, there are 2! GameCube and XB both are a walk in the park compared to the developers nightmare that is PS2. I know PS2 games will get better looking, but not better looking than GC or XB....


Try to close my mouth fanboy, I sing praises for any deserving system or game, and PS2\'s innards and comparative capabilities are UNWORTHY OF PRAISE. I believe most people think like you, and I call those people \'morons\'. Since I\'ve played well over 70 PS2 games, I feel more than qualified to diss the areas it deserves to be.

All of you should just chill the hell out and debate this crap 2 years from now when we\'ve seen what all the consoles are capable of.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

You can use all the logic you want, you can think all you want, and make whatever conclusions you want. The only fact is that we don\'t know jack about how things will be in 2 years.

Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing


Oh please, spare yourself.



The background textures, and poly count on the cars are much better than the psx2.  As for FSAA psx2 will have to be done on software which will comprise performace.

Anyhow I guess to be fair we will have to wait till both games are complete for the each sytem to give a final comparision.

These pics aren\'t that much different, don\'t act like the X-BOX ones are so much better, and why do you act like your special

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by EThugg

.....mmmmm... PS2 IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO DEV FOR!!! I give 2 ****s about you saviour the vector units. Saturn had plenty of great chips that developers didnt use cause IT WAS TOO ****ING DIFFICULT! And like Saturn vs PSX, developers WILL flock to the easier and more powerful system to develop for, and this time, there are 2! GameCube and XB both are a walk in the park compared to the developers nightmare that is PS2. I know PS2 games will get better looking, but not better looking than GC or XB....

Saturn vs PSX was a different situation and only a "genius":rolleyes: like you could think in a different way !
Do you think developers will skip PS2 ?  Why?  because X-Box is easier to develop for ?   You\'re a moron!   Square are developing 23 Games only for PS2!  Why?   isn\'t X-Box 3 times more powerful and Far easier to develop for  ...and Konami ? why 70% of their resource in the coming years  are going to PSX and PS2? and
Namco?   They will skip PS2 because of the complexity of the hardware?  PS2 will reach an installed base of 20
millions units by the time X-Box and GC will be released worldwide...so...instead of developing for the most successful console (PS2 ),developers will skip PS2 in favour of GC(younger market) and X-Box(no on-line capabilities until late 2002,0 user base,0 innovation) because both are easier to develop for ?   You are a true Genius
PS2 was a nightmare to develop for at first...difficult just now but with extra time it will get easier because software improves!  SOFTWARE IMPROVES MORON

Try to close my mouth fanboy, I sing praises for any deserving system or game, and PS2\'s innards and comparative capabilities are UNWORTHY OF PRAISE.

I didn\'t try to close your mouth...I\'ve closed your mouth Fanboy!
   ...your arguments are so unproductive...
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