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« on: April 23, 2001, 07:57:13 PM »
These are the best screen shots i have seen for any XBOX racer yet.












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  TEST DRIVE ON PSX2








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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2001, 08:28:03 PM »
Hey they look almost the same.

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2001, 08:44:09 PM »
you can see the lack of FSAA in the PS2 pics other then that it seems to be on par.

of course this is Test drive on unfinshed XBox kits so thats something to think about



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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2001, 09:02:53 PM »
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Hey they look almost the same


Oh please, spare yourself.

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you can see the lack of FSAA in the PS2 pics other then that it seems to be on par.



The background textures, and poly count on the cars are much better than the psx2.  As for FSAA psx2 will have to be done on software which will comprise performace.

Anyhow I guess to be fair we will have to wait till both games are complete for the each sytem to give a final comparision.

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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2001, 09:09:20 PM »
I really do not see a big difference either.  The Xbox shots are clearly better but not by that much, mainly the FSAA IMO.

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2001, 09:16:06 PM »
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The background textures, and poly count on the cars are much better than the psx2.  As for FSAA psx2 will have to be done on software which will comprise performace.

Anyhow I guess to be fair we will have to wait till both games are complete for the each sytem to give a final comparision.



your kinda reaching here son.

There is some difference but nothing I would waste my time arguing about

In fact if this is Xbox then the PS2 has nothing to worry about then cause the difference in graphics won\'t be that noticeable and people will stick with known brandnames then.


On top of all this I\'ve seen an early mpeg of Testdrive for the PS2 running and theses shots you gave me don\'t really capture how fantastic the game looked running. I\'m sure the Xbox version will be superior, but by these screens not by much at all or not worth debating over



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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2001, 09:36:09 PM »
Joy. I can now buy an x-box for the amazing game that test drive is. :rolleyes: Didn\'t like the way it looked on PS2, same goes for the box.

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2001, 10:12:29 PM »
oh I agree the leap in graphics is not that much, but again it\'s running on 50% of XBOX power. Just think what happens if the developers and that is IF they decide to squeeze more power out, when final hardware comes out.

Personally I never cared for TEST DRIVE I only posted this to illustrate progression on xbox so far in the graphics department

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2001, 11:45:13 PM »
"oh I agree the leap in graphics is not that much, but again it\'s running on 50% of XBOX power." - OhGodlyThing

Yeah, but by the same token.. is TD6 utilizing the full 50% Xbox power provided? And do you really think that the PS2 pics are from code that\'s using over 50% of the PS2\'s power efficently? Not to beat a dead horse here, but GT3 looks far better (IMO) than TD6.. and it\'s still a very early game made for a very misunderstood machine.

Now not to say that the Xbox version won\'t look better than the PS2 version, but from the way this thread is going it seems to mislead the reader into thinking that, at full effecency, the Xbox version would look twice as good as the PS2 version running at full efficency. That\'s just not the case.

Anyway, I haven\'t been excited about a testdrive game since TD3 for the PC oh so many years ago, and I don\'t think I\'ll be getting too excited over this one either... weither the PS2 OR Xbox version.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2001, 12:51:50 AM »
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...Amazing ?? :rolleyes:    I\'m sure you\'re joking ! :)

GT3 and The Getaway,hands down,blow away this kind of Graphics...and they push the PS2 less than 50% !

...and your comparison is openly the proof of the insecurity of all the PC-Zealots :D

(I\'m not sure that this kind of developers can use more than 20% of the Power of the PS2 :D)
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2001, 01:17:38 AM »
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at full effecency, the Xbox version would look twice as good as the PS2 version running at full efficency. That\'s just not the case.

 GOOD LUCK there the XBOX is alot more powerful than PSX2 and it is capable of producing graphics at leat 2 times greater than PSX2. I\'ll tell you what how about we wait till the xbox is released, then we can see if XBOX is truly that more powerful than PSX2.

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Yeah, but by the same token.. is TD6 utilizing the full 50% Xbox power provided? And do you really think that the PS2 pics are from code that\'s using over 50% of the PS2\'s power efficently?


Alright fair enough, So then if TD6 is using let\'s say "HALF" of both systems power, meaning 50% of psx2 and 50% of 1/2 of XBOX\'S power, then to simplify the math 50 % of psx2 power and 25% of xbox\'s.(casue 50 divided by 2 is 25)  Therefore this clearly shows by your analogy that XBOX is indeed at least 2 times more powerful than PSX2

Oh by the way it\'s funny how GT3 is the only good looking PSX2 racer, you know why cause they have been developing that game for ages, alot of man power has been put into that game, SONY has poured more money into the development  then they ever have before, in other words majority of PSX2 developers don\'t have the MONEY and TIME to spend in order to make a game like GT3. Yet the XBOX could do a game like gt3 in half the time, which means less money to accomplish the same task = greater profit.

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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2001, 01:22:59 AM »
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I\'m not sure that this kind of developers can use more than 20% of the Power of the PS2


THis developer to me, seems lazy both for psx2 and xbox. Oh well still looks decent.

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Amazing ??  I\'m sure you\'re joking !


As opposed to being dead serious, LOL, LOL. But so far these are the best pics for any axbox racer yet. We will have to wait see how project-gotham is comming along


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and your comparison is openly the proof of the insecurity of all the PC-Zealots


What are you talking about, I\'m not a pc gamer. I could give a rat\'s ass about pc zealots.

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2001, 03:25:15 AM »
"Alright fair enough, So then if TD6 is using let\'s say "HALF" of both systems power, meaning 50% of psx2 and 50% of 1/2 of XBOX\'S power, then to simplify the math 50 % of psx2 power and 25% of xbox\'s.(casue 50 divided by 2 is 25) Therefore this clearly shows by your analogy that XBOX is indeed at least 2 times more powerful than PSX2" - OhGodlyThing

Ok, first of all, that way of litteral thinking is f*cked. I put the analogy up to explain that you, or anyone here, really dosen\'t know jack **** about either systems power based on percentages coupled with screenshots. I just wanted to bring a little reality check to this thread, but you insist on twisting my meaning and using it to further your Xbox gloating.

Point in fact, we don\'t know what percentage of power TD6 is using out of either console, or weither or not the Xbox value would be based on the incomplete dev kit or a speculation based on current projected specs for the complete dev kit. (If you remember, Sony developers were giving out % numbers for what their demos and games would run on complete hardware even before they had finished dev kits).

But lets just say we go ahead and assign values, and use your analogy. The way I see it, if the PS2 is creating this games visuals nearly as well as the Xbox is, and with a gap of 25% less power.. then that makes me wonder just what in the hell is taking up most of that 25% margin of difference. FSAA? That\'s a hell of a preformance hit there. So really, you\'ve either just complimented the PS2 or shown that your logic is screwey.

Oh, and about GT3 taking AGES to develop... you do know that it\'s not just programming the PS2 that took up that much time. A good deal of it was due to the increadible attention to details (what TD6 is so far lacking), field testing the actual autos for accurate representation in the game, and other aspects of game development. Not to mention that while it will have significatly less cars than GT2, I can all but guantee that GT3 will have significantly MORE cars than TD6. Just because a game\'s been in development for a long time, dosen\'t necessarrily mean it\'s because of cost and hardware limitations... It could also mean they\'re just aiming at making a high quality product. Look at Working Design\'s games for an example.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2001, 10:47:41 AM »
Originally by TheOgodlyThing

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I\'ll tell you what how about we wait till the xbox is released, then we can see if XBOX is truly that more powerful than PSX2.



Sonyfan i respect your point of view here, but wew will never really know untill xbox is released. When this happens we will be able to see what develpers have done with the games, having used the final hardware.

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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2001, 11:14:31 AM »
HEH!!...i am very pleased with your actions sonyfan...you destroyed ugly\'s agend with-out him ever even knowing...well done:D

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