You have to pay to play FF11

wise words spoken by  Rasputin!!!! Very nicely said

I hope this isn\'t a trend. I\'ll stop playing games if too many games start charging ****ty fees. And paying monthly for PlayOnline \'instead of\' paying for FFXI alone is just as stupid... **** Square and their ****ty ass games. PSO might have more in common with Diablo, but that doesnt mean it\'s not better (IMO it is). And Sonic Team/Sega isn\'t ripping off it\'s customers.


If I paid $50 for a game, transaction over. I owe the company nothing more to play my game.

Very fine words EThugg.  I share your sentiments on this Square Online balderdash.  Fifty dollars should be enough even for the greediest of game developers.

Sega ripped off its customers by dropping the Dreamcast. Square didn\'t do anything that bad.

Originally posted by Weltall
Sega ripped off its customers by dropping the Dreamcast. Square didn\'t do anything that bad.

DC\'s paid for itself with more quality games than still currently available on PS2. While sad to see it go, I, and no gamer, was ripped off by buying DC.

You see there is a BIG problem with the logic of "it is a REAL MMORPG, it needs a monthly fee". That is hogwash. This is a CONSOLE we are talking about, not a PC. If PS2 wants to further connect itself with PCs, that is there perrogative, but there is no way in hell that they are gonna get 300k people in America to pay after a month even for FF11.

For FF11 you have to buy:

game (50$)
monthly fee (10$)
harddrive - ethernet (est. 100$)

after 5 months of playing you would have spent 200 bucks estimated.

It is bad enough that the ethernet is not included, paying monthly access is just retarded.


Weltall - choosing your words more wisely in the future would accredit a higher opinion of you by me and other sensible games who still think DC is a blast.


Eric Jacob

No. I feel ripped off. It\'s great that there are quite a number of nice DC games out there, but when I spend $140 on a system, only to hear 10 days later that it\'s being discontinued, I feel screwed. I buy a system for the long term.

I disagree, you may have already got a back catalogue of games which in your opinion makes your purchase worth it, I agree, it was worth it, I just got a dreamcast soley for the back catalogue. However when Sega drop the dreamcast there dropping the future of the console and in turn no more games will be released. Your purchase is now obsolute, leaving you with just the back catalogue which although good, its no excuse for a year or so worth of games which could of been had if Sega continued with the Dreamcast. Although im not saying that Sega made a wrong move, if I was in there postion I would have done the same, but yes they can take the blame since its there fault that the console failed, the third time Sega fans have been burnt (counting 32x, Saturn and then Dreamcast but I could have also mentioned the Mega CD).

As for Final Fantasy XI, its going to be EVEN MORE expensive to play this game in the UK, since we have dearer telephone bills. No doubt you lot will pay a monthly call and that will be all. We will end up paying a MORE EXPENSIVE monthly call and then have to pay for the phone calls PER MINUTE.

I personally won\'t be buying this game unless they can offer free per month and free phone calls to play, but I can\'t see this happening.

The least they could do is give the game to people for say £5 and then charge per month for online time.

You all are blowing this way out of preportion. teiresias, PlayOline is like SegaNet in very many ways. You can dial-up to it. You can access it on broadband and it host all of Squares games.

Please remmemebr people that PlayOnline is not only a ISP or Network. It lets you read magazins, hints and tips, and with conjuction of the PS2 camera have video phone conversations.

So please remmember that Play Online is not only just a ISP it is so much more.

Am i the only one that thinks this will be a good idea ?

look, it\'s simple fact of life that every service we use requires funding to maintain and develop it.

I play TFC online and have seen many a Free SERVER close due to lack of Funds ETC etc Etc

Barrysworld is a classic example, Free access but things when T!Ts up pritty quick as soon as demand out striped their ability to serve.

ONline Play will alow people to obatin fast internet gaming access to Squaresoft games plus a whole host of other features , sounds good to me.

Also with the investment by the Users we can expect to see an evolution in the way the games are played.

This is a very important feature for that all important replay factor.

Remember you DOn\'t Have to Play FF11 !
and the ironic thing is that..
i can see that most of the People who have been
B!tching about not "wasting" money on a HDD and internet Adaptor, B!tching about this news too.

Why are you people complaining your not even going to get internet access for your PS2.......

So 00Seven, You think your the only one who thinks this is a good idea?

Originally posted by Caspian
So 00Seven, You think your the only one who thinks this is a good idea?

sorry mate, but it was just reading some of the replys (not yours)

they forget that someone has to fund this online system , if they want more newer charaters, levels and weapons Funding is they way.

Originally posted by Weltall
No. I feel ripped off. It\'s great that there are quite a number of nice DC games out there, but when I spend $140 on a system, only to hear 10 days later that it\'s being discontinued, I feel screwed

That is almost funny. I feel sorry for you, I was almost going to buy the DC but I didnt.

I agree totally.The creaters of PSO say that they didn\'t want to make PSO a frequently updated game because they wanted to spend more time developing other things. Which is why after (Version 2) they are going to move on.

I know, it amazes me how many people want something for nothing and how they refuse to understand the economy of gaming.

I mean look at PSO and PSOversion2.  PSO version 2 is adding functionality to PSO (very limited extra functionality IMO, no new levels or anything), yet no one is complaining that they\'ll have to go out and buy PSO version 2 to get that extra functionality.  I\'m surprised they aren\'t all saying, "I should be able to walk in and get it for free if I bought the first release of PSO!!"