You have to pay to play FF11

Monthly acssess fees for play online. Bummer. I\'ll still pay if it isnt too much.

http://ps2.ign.com/news/35105.html

I\'m sorry but this is gay, having to pay a fee to play a certain game online. No thanks.

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I thought this game was for online only.  If they charge you to play online then that means you have to pay to play this game.

if a=b
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then a=c

Not only that, but you also gotta buy the game for around 50 bucks translated yen. Gimme a break Square! They should just go the PSO way...frizee!

Eric Jacob

Re-read

I hate to be a sticler. Your not paying to play the game. It says that the first game reqiures PlayOnline. You are paying for PlayOnline. An internet service that can be used in place of your present one. As long as I get to use my BroadBand adapter Im happy. Which I can if you read the new information.

http://ps2.ign.com/news/35144.html

Caspian, if that\'s the case, then it will be just like paying for Sega\'s online service.  It\'s a great deal if you put it that way.

But if it is just an extra monthly fee to play the game, it will be just like paying for Everquest.  I think a lot of people will still be interested in it even if it is just an extra fee.

and thats the problem. Will people want to give up their ISP to play a game? PlayOnline MUST be used. That is such a gip and a really crappy way (for consumers) to have to play a really anticipated title.

Square pisses me off. You can really tell what companies still make games for the consumer and what companies make games for the money.

Eric Jacob

PS- it is obivous all companies are in it for money, it seems like Sega doesn\'t mind taking a hit on the paycheck as long as the gamers are happy, though.

Online play is not near reliable enough BY ANYONE to pay for.  Too many connectivity issues.  too many cheaters.  I\'ll just play a game that\'s free online like Counterstrike.  Hell, I\'ll probably still be playing Counterstrike long after I beat FF X.

yea and look where sega choices got them

i could care less really i am sure it will be like 5-19 bucks a month and if you don\'t wanna pay that then don\'t buy the game - no one will make you

No thanks. If they\'re going to be A-Holes and make you sign up for their service, then they can kiss my penny pinchin american ass. Why not just go the route of SegaNet and allow anyone to play. Hell most of their American audience won\'t be in calling range.. unless they have 1800 numbers to call into. (Which are absolute crap from my experience.) I mean, even if they charged people 20 to 30 bucks a year to play FFXI that\'d still be better than making you use them for an ISP.

Looks like my MMORPG fix will only be PSO for alot longer than I had hoped. (It\'s not like I\'m going to get bored of it too quickly... I hope)

Never Fear! PSO v2 will be out soon and once again, should add another 200 odd hours or so to your experience. My friend has racked in over 500 hours! Unbelievable!!

Eric Jacob

Never Fear! PSO v2 will be out soon and once again, should add another 200 odd hours or so to your experience. My friend has racked in over 500 hours! Unbelievable!!

I have ranked in over 1500 hours with UT{pc ver}( i no Sad, even lost a girlfriend becuase of it). My first experience with Online play. Once you go online there is no turning back baby!!!


Oh by the way, i haven\'t played UT for 5 months now

You didn\'t expect this?  I don\'t see how anyone couldn\'t expect this.  And you know what, it IS NOT out of line.

Sure, you can play Phantasy Star Online online for free, but there is a big difference between PSO and FFXI.

PSO is basically Diablo, just a set of levels that you can sign on and play through with some buddies.  Final Fantasy XI is a persistant world RPG that stays online even when you log-off.  It doesn\'t have "levels" like PSO\'s forests, mines, caves and ruins.  It has a continuously online world that you enter whenever you play and the thing continues to change even when you\'re offline.  This isn\'t true with PSO, they are completely different kinds of online games.

EVERY SINGLE MAJOR PERISTENT WORLD rpg starting with Meridian 69 has had a monthly charge (except for the free beta period on most of them of course).  Every last one of them has so why should you expect anything else now?  Usually the charge is like $10 or less a month (that was the price for Asheron\'s Call when I was actively playing it).  It\'s less than what I pay in gas a month so you know what they can have it so long as the game is fun.

You don\'t see people complaining that Anarchy Online on the PC will have a monthly charge based on the fact that Diable doesn\'t have a monthly charge do you?  That same illogical argument is what is used when people cite PSO as a reason FFXI shouldn\'t have a monthly charge.

Also, from what I\'ve read PlayOnline isn\'t an ISP service.  It\'s kinda like a separate network that will host all of Square\'s content but it is not an ISP service -- at least that\'s the impression I got.

The end very infrequently justifies the means.  Although Square will provide gamers with memorable online experiences, those same gamers will be forced to sacrifice their hard earned dollars on a monthly basis in order to play a game they\'ve already purchased.  Tell me there isn\'t something wrong with that.

There isn\'t anything wrong with that.  I have to pay for upkeep on my car.  I don\'t just buy it and then expect to get oil changes, tire rotations, inspections, and replacement parts for free.  Sure, I can do the maintance myself if I want but I still end up paying for parts outside of the price of the car.

When you buy a persistent RPG you first pay for the initial development.  After that your monthly fees are used for upkeep and to pay the programmers that stay on maintaining and updating the game month after month after month.  Unlike a stand-alone game where much of the programming staff leaves or goes on to other projects there has to be a staff that stays and maintains the servers and makes sure updates to the world are done.

IMO, $10 a month is a small price to pay for a gaming experience that has much more scope and freedom than a limited "level based" game like Phantasy Star Online.