Sony\'s Kutaragi says Xbox "finished"

the x box has some obvious reasons it wont do well, microsoft hasnt noticed them.
gamecube coming out 2 days before x box?
at time of launch, GC= $200
PS2=$200 (q3 price drop)
Xbox=$300
add on that, some americans hate microsoft no matter what.
parents would most likely buy a cheaper console, made by Nintendo, who has been in the industry and is more recognized with gaming that microsoft is.
Games: nintendo has always managed to get at least 2 or 3 AAA titles at the launch of each and every one of their consoles.
all consoles will be online, x box(correct me if im wrong, im remembering this one) wont have 56k compatability?
yes, i know sony switched. i think it was stupid, but its a smart buisness move. (they anticipated the industry to haveing tons of broadband by the time)
hopefully the games wont lag.  that would suck.
sony has almost all of japan. japan does not like microsoft just look at what happened at TGS!!!(if you dont know, only the microsoft employees clapped after bill\' speech, and presentation.)

well thats what ive noticed that the general public would care about at the launch.
my guess who will end out on top would either be sony or nintendo.. but more leaning towards sony.

Originally posted by Falcon4
the x box has some obvious reasons it wont do well, microsoft hasnt noticed them.
gamecube coming out 2 days before x box?
at time of launch, GC= $200
PS2=$200 (q3 price drop)
Xbox=$300
add on that, some americans hate microsoft no matter what.
parents would most likely buy a cheaper console, made by Nintendo, who has been in the industry and is more recognized with gaming that microsoft is.
Games: nintendo has always managed to get at least 2 or 3 AAA titles at the launch of each and every one of their consoles.
all consoles will be online, x box(correct me if im wrong, im remembering this one) wont have 56k compatability?
yes, i know sony switched. i think it was stupid, but its a smart buisness move. (they anticipated the industry to haveing tons of broadband by the time)
hopefully the games wont lag.  that would suck.
sony has almost all of japan. japan does not like microsoft just look at what happened at TGS!!!(if you dont know, only the microsoft employees clapped after bill\' speech, and presentation.)

well thats what ive noticed that the general public would care about at the launch.
my guess who will end out on top would either be sony or nintendo.. but more leaning towards sony.

1-PS2 will not be $200

2-Parents chose Sony over Nintendo last time, and theres no garuntee they won\'t choose MS over Nintendo. Parents trust real companies like Sony and MS over smaller companies like Nintendo. The oonly thing in Nintendos favor with parents is Pokemon. If their kids love Pokemon, they\'ll go with Nintendo.

3-MS is launching with about 5 AAA titles. Including Munch and Silent Hill X.

4-Nintendo has stated they have no out of the box online plans. And MS is packing their adaptor, so its there when the network launches, no need for addons. MS may release a 56k addon if enough demand is there.

5-Actually, I read reports that Japanese game sites and gamers were quite excited about XB. Apprehensive? Yes, but when Square announces a few games, MS has everything except Sony and Nintendo 1st party games, which will bod well for their chances of moderate success in japan. Besides, DC failed in japan... what do they know?

We\'ll see who will come out on top... don\'t speculate.


Altered beast and Sonyfan: Canniblism, incest and bigomy are just as natural. You do all that? Altered, take your religion and shove it up your ass! Wave any book in front of my eyes to justify murder and ill gouge your ****ing eyes out.

I do not condone the killing of HUMANS. or the inhumane torturing of animals. but we as humans are fortunate enough to have such a wonderful thing available to us. If you dont think about what happens to these animals (created for OUR use. or underevoluted for our use) than you realize that it is a viable food, very tasty, and it just makes sense.  yum yum, eat up!

I am not forcing you to eat meat please let\'s not kick my butt.

Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
I do not condone the killing of HUMANS. or the inhumane torturing of animals. but we as humans are fortunate enough to have such a wonderful thing available to us. If you dont think about what happens to these animals (created for OUR use. or underevoluted for our use) than you realize that it is a viable food, very tasty, and it just makes sense.  yum yum, eat up!

I am not forcing you to eat meat please let\'s not kick my butt.

Eric Jacob

As a religious person, I assume your pro-life/anti-abortion. Think about the animals the same way, and you\'ll see where I\'m coming from. I don\'t expect you to agree, I know I\'m in the minority. That\'s one of many reasons I look down on the human race. IMO, \'animals\' (a misnomer, as humans are animals) are on the same level as humans, not below them. If you care about humans, I feel, you should care about all animals, not just human animals.

"Canniblism, incest and bigomy are just as natural. You do all that?" - EThugg

I can\'t see how you would think that Cannibilism, incest, and bigomy are just as natural to humans as eating animal flesh. Those are learned behaviors, with probably the exception of Bigomy (or at least infidelity).  The morals of the culture you\'re raised in vastly shapes your view of these practices.

For instance canniblism is a very rare practice that is looked down upon by most cultures past and present. Most of those who do (or did) practice cannabalism don\'t do it very often. Mostly it\'s tied with religeon. There\'s cannibals in India who steal and eat corpses on occasion as part of their religeon. The Crow indians thought that by eating the liver of your enemy, you take his strength into you. Sort of the same with some South American rain forest tribes. There one tribe (can\'t remember the name) that liquifys the brains of their elders after they die and mix it in a special drink to be shared with the rest of the family so that the elders wisdom can be passed on. Almost NO culture on earth, past or present, considers human flesh a main staple of their diet. It\'s almost always religeous or superstisious in nature. Hardly what I\'d call natural behavior. If push came to shove in a survival situation.. I would probably resort to cannablism as an absolute last resort.

Well, that\'s it for right now. I\'ve got duckling breast tenders comming out of the deepfryer in about two minuites.

Sonyfan, I said natural you ****ing moron. Eating meat is NOT natural for most primates including humans, it\'s a choice humans have made for a long time. And in NATURE, the things I listed, ARE just as natural as eating flesh. Canniblism, incest and bigomy are \'bad\' by choice. Not by human nature.

Well maybe it wasn\'t natural for our ancestors 3 million years ago, but for modern humans it is. We have evolved to incorperate flesh into our diets.. which is why we have the teeth and digestive tracts that we do. It is also because of the protines in meat, which our ancestors at alot of, that helped fuel the expanded growth of our brains allowing us to become smarter and ultimately to build the society we have. Many of the vitamins and nutrients we currently need to stay healthy come from meat. It\'s not that big a deal today since you can import vegetables rich in these vitamines from all over the world.. but as little as a hundred years ago that wasn\'t possible. I also wouldn\'t consider our ancestors decision to eat meat a "choice", since it was an either eat meat or die situation.

BTW: It\'s not a common practice amongst most primates, but some of them do consume flesh. Babboons, Resus Monkeys, and (our closest living relative) the Chimpanzee all eat meat.

[BizioEE]

...I\'m confused now...maybe I\'ll buy the X-Box in Q1 2003...I want be sure it won\'t fail.....

Your so full of ****, and represent the thinking that\'s the problem with the human race. We shouldn\'t continue fighting, as you are just wrong, and facts have no effect on you. It is not natural NOW either. Humans DID have a choice. Flesh consumption has NO effect on brain development. And the human race was NEVER in a \'eat meat or die\' position.

Oh, and in Nature cannabalism, Bigomy, and incest are natural because of the harsh conditions the animals live in. Bigomy and Incest are expecially important to those animals because of harsh enviroments and small social groupings. If they didn\'t do anything and everything to reproduce... they\'d eventually start dying out.

Modern humans don\'t need cannabalism because we can find meat anywhere, and have the tools to hunt and kill it effeciently. But like I said before, it\'s still sporatically practiced mainly for religous purposes. Bigomy and incest are also not needed because of the sheer size of the human species. We\'ve cast those aside. However, we still need to eat meat because we need the invaluable vitamins and nutrients to stay healthy... expecially protine. It hasn\'t been until these last 50 years that most well off countrys have created the infrastrcuture to supply vegetarians with the wide array of vegetables needed to get these nutrients on a regular basis.

Hey, I\'m just repeating what I\'ve learned from the Discovery Channel\'s wide range of human origin specials. Mostly, from "Humans: Who are we?". You should watch it next time it airs. It\'s pretty interesting.

BTW: Here\'s a link to a page on the Discovery Channel\'s website which has "Absolutely NO facts to back me up."

http://www.discovery.com/news/features/humanorigins/page2.html

That page isn\'t nearly in-depth as the TV special, but it gets the job done. Also, I apologize. It\'s true it\'s not FACT that the protines in animal consumption fueled the expanded growth of our brains.. however it\'s strongly theorized.

Well, we aren\'t going to agree, and I\'m too lazy to do research (that I did before, so I know I\'m right), to prove my views to you. You either respect life, or you don\'t. We got off on this ranting in a very wrong section...

Whoa, calm down people. I go to bed, and this is what I see when I get up? All hell has broken loose.

Please keep this ON TOPIC damnit. This is not about religion, meat, killing people, cannibalism etc. As exciting as those topics might be they don\'t belong in this thread.

BTW, to however said Europe was like 20% of the market - Europe is the biggest gaming market. Sony sold more PSX in Europe than in the States (though they were on a close 2nd place) and Japan. Just clearing that up.

Now continue in an appropriate manner, thank you.

Originally posted by Samwise


BTW, to however said Europe was like 20% of the market - Europe is the biggest gaming market. Sony sold more PSX in Europe than in the States (though they were on a close 2nd place) and Japan. Just clearing that up.

If Europe was the biggest market, companies would focus on it most. They don\'t cause it isnt. Regardless of how many PSones were sold there. Besides, piracy is much more widespread in Europe, so Sony dosn\'t make more money there than the US or Japan. Well, on average... Japans economy is getting worse in the last few years... Also, \'Europe\' isn\'t a market. UK, Sweden, etc are markets.

Originally posted by EThugg
If Europe was the biggest market, companies would focus on it most. They don\'t cause it isnt. Regardless of how many PSones were sold there. Besides, piracy is much more widespread in Europe, so Sony dosn\'t make more money there than the US or Japan. Well, on average... Japans economy is getting worse in the last few years... Also, \'Europe\' isn\'t a market. UK, Sweden, etc are markets.

True, it isn\'t a single country as such, but it\'s still a market. It\'s just a bit more difficult due to taxes, infrastructure etc. But believe me, it is the bigger market. So it doesn\'t matter that Sony sold more PSones here than anywhere else? How do you figure that?