What was/is your best console ever?

Put it this way. Was Dreamcast flawed by any technology features? No, it was just bad timing. Had this been released 1 year after Nintendo 64, it would storm gaming forever. Nintendo had technology flaws as I stated. Dreamcast didn\'t.

jm

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Hype killed the DC. ****yness will kill the GC. Freshman-itis will kill the X-Box.

You are doing the same thing that almost everyone did with the DC. They wrote it off as a peice of crap. You have never even touched a GC or X-Box, but for some reason you know they will fail. That statement alone leaves your argument null and void. You are a hypocrite. The same person who was *****ing about people calling the DC a peice of crap without playing it, is doing the same thing with the XBox and GCN.

Originally posted by codemaster
Put it this way. Was Dreamcast flawed by any technology features? No, it was just bad timing. Had this been released 1 year after Nintendo 64, it would storm gaming forever. Nintendo had technology flaws as I stated. Dreamcast didn\'t.

You still didn\'t answer my question:D but I agree with you.

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Originally posted by mm

Dreamcast sucks a big one

i guess mommy wouldnt buy him one for xmas [/B]

Guess not. Maybe we should all pitch in and enlighten him...


Still, PS2 hype killed the DC. Everyone was going on and on about how the PS2 was going to come out with the best games ever and they\'d be soooo much above the DC. Yeah, Sega had been loosing money for awhile, due to some bad marketing choices. But, if you look at Nintendo they are heading down the same path.

Failed systems.
Virtual boy.
64DD.
So many delays on the N64 it wasn\'t even funny.
The bad choice of cartridges which limited the N64 severly!

 The N64 was hardly worth buying except for a handful of games. Original titles? Yeah, right. They are depending on classic franchises alone now. In my opinion, Nintendo will end up being a handheld maker only after this generation, unless they can pull some magic tricks.

It is pretty sad actually. One classic company gone (Sega). Nintendo looking to be the next (in my opinion).

I agree with almost everyone in this thread though. Espically the comment that DC gamers for the most part was older and more "hardcore". They remember the classic platform games and 2D. They don\'t require fancy 3D graphics for the most part. Where as, it seems the PS2 is as "mainstream" as a console can get. Which means, whatever is popular at the moment, is what will be on the system. Its a good idea, I think its just an obvious difference in status and userbase.

I can\'t say the GC will fail. I don\'t think it will make a dent in the market with the Xbox and PS2 competing. If it comes out right before the Xbox, it is going to be horrible timing. Wedged in bewteen the PS2 relaunch and the Xbox offical launch. That cannot be good for GC sales.

By the way, Altered. You mention letting third party developers do what they want. You are right, to an extent. Sega did, but they also had decent quality control. The PS didn\'t. For every good game, there was 10 horrible ones for it. Need proof? Look at the $10 dollar titles that are flooding the store shelfs right now. Hopefully MS will do what Sega did. Give freedom to developers, but also enforce quality.

Your answer regarding the developers of Sega Dreamcast? I told you, Sega happens to be the #1 company in 1st party support for quality games. What has sony developed in house that was ground breaking? If so, did it ever match up to the number of classic, best selling Sega games? I doubt it. I really do. You don\'t call yourself a hardcore gamer unless you tried each console and playing more than 1 game for it. Some people have to see behond what the media claims. Sure, Nintendo 64 was slammed before release, did that push me away from buying one? No, I found myself dissapointed being an owner for no more than 3 months. Goldeneye was probally my biggest thriller, everything else just stunk. My Rush series canned by bland textures, crap-o fighers, less than steller sport games. My dreamcast offered what I want that happened to be favored by the media.


I put it this way. If it has my games on that system and play to my expecatations, I could really care less about what the media claims it to be, because it their opinion. Unless by some chance do I review a console before buying they supply satastics of public polls and I try it and I agree are the media correct.

Either way, Sega/Nintendo/Sony aren\'t without its flaws. At least Sega ended its show before someone else did it for them.

jm

But, if you look at Nintendo they are heading down the same path.

What you talking about Willis???

Nintendo is ****ing rich. Some people still don\'t understand this simple concept. They have enough money to survive for a long time.

Also,N64 made them money. Overall, they didn\'t lose anything off of the N64, they gained. And they gained a ****load more off of the GBC. Don\'t say pokemon, say their franchises. Their franchises made them A LOT of money. Mario made them the most for the N64, then Zelda then Pokemon(I\'m talking about the n64 here).

Does it look like GBA is going to fail? It already has 3 million pre-orders in Japan.

As for GameCube, I don\'t see how it can NOT be a major success. The N64 was a terrible piece of technology and yet it sold over 35 million units .The GameCube is a revolutionary piece of technology so who saying it won\'t do just as good? They have more second and third parties now too. I\'m not saying GameCube will win the console wars, I\'m saying it will be successful, very successful. That\'s obvious.

IMO, I doubt Nintendo will EVER become a third-party.

I don\'t think it will make a dent in the market with the Xbox and PS2 competing. If it comes out right before the Xbox, it is going to be horrible timing. Wedged in bewteen the PS2 relaunch and the Xbox offical launch. That cannot be good for GC sales.

Uh huh. I thought GameCube was aimed at the younger audience? If that is true then it means that PS2 and Xbox won\'t effect it\'s sales. :rolleyes:

best console...ummm, psx,... FF, MGS, Tekken , GT2, Re tell it all!

and dc recieves credit for being the best console with the shortest life time!

my favorite old school is nintendo and my favorite new is psx no system has as good of games as psx
and dreamcast is probably my least favorite i mean you dont have to look any farther than the crappy games

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Originally posted by Bozco
my favorite old school is nintendo and my favorite new is psx no system has as good of games as psx
and dreamcast is probably my least favorite i mean you dont have to look any farther than the crappy games

Yeah I know it.....

Sonic Adventure, PSO, Virtua Fighter 3, Virtua Tennis, Resident Evil Code Veronica, Capcom VS SNK, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, Shenmue, Grandia 2, Skies of Arcadia, Soul Calibur, etc was really crappy games man...
:rolleyes:

hey Bozco that was a very stupid to say, DC has as many (if not more) great games than psx. For only 2 years it has over 30 excelent titles.

These games worth the Dc, and they are not on other gaming consoles

Soul caliber
PSO
NFL2k1
Crazy taxi (still DC exculusive)
Sonic adventure
grandia II
Skies of arcadia
Shenmue

Originally posted by Bozco
my favorite old school is nintendo and my favorite new is psx no system has as good of games as psx
and dreamcast is probably my least favorite i mean you dont have to look any farther than the crappy games

Soon, we\'ll be seeing more crappy games on your fave console.

Hmm, with more power, would that make Sega games on PS2 extra crappy?

Resident Evil CODE: Veronica - really crappy non-Sega game, but only until the PS2 version arrives, then it will be extra crappy

Soul Calibur - regarded as one of the DC\'s crappiest non-Sega games, the sequel on PS2 should be extra crappy

Unreal Tournament - crappy DC version includes crappy online play, PS2 version lets you play with yourself

My sig is just perfect for you.

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Originally posted by Ashford


Soon, we\'ll be seeing more crappy games on your fave console.

Hmm, with more power, would that make Sega games on PS2 extra crappy?

Resident Evil CODE: Veronica - really crappy non-Sega game, but only until the PS2 version arrives, then it will be extra crappy

Soul Calibur - regarded as one of the DC\'s crappiest non-Sega games, the sequel on PS2 should be extra crappy

Unreal Tournament - crappy DC version includes crappy online play, PS2 version lets you play with yourself

My sig is just perfect for you.

You forgot Quake 3 Arena also man. I mean Sega\'s version allowed you to play online, but the PS2 won\'t ...So, look no further for your "crappy games". Or Crazy Taxi--originally on the DC, coming to the PS2..Ut oh! Another one of those damn crappy games..And how about that Virtua Fighter 4?

hahaha..

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip




You forgot Quake 3 Arena also man. I mean Sega\'s version allowed you to play online, but the PS2 won\'t ...So, look no further for your "crappy games". Or Crazy Taxi--originally on the DC, coming to the PS2..Ut oh! Another one of those damn crappy games..And how about that Virtua Fighter 4?

hahaha..

The PS2 is gonna be overflowing with crap. Sega-quality crap. The crappiest crap that ever crapped a crap.