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Offline Evi

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Separation of Church and State
« Reply #180 on: May 19, 2005, 05:37:36 PM »
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No, I myself am christian and I do not believe Jesus is god. I looked at some passages from the bible that pointed to him as not being god. But at the same time I saw some that pointed to him being god. It\'s how you interpret the book.
It would be nice if you would stop being so vague and actually post the verses in question. It doesn\'t matter how man interprets the book, if you truly believe the book is the Word of God, then only God\'s interpretation matters. 2 Timothy 2:15 -- "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needs not be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth."

There are no two perspectives in the Word of Truth. If there is a right perspective, there can be a wrong perspective. And the only perspective that matters is God\'s.

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jesus is not god...some say he is because of how some say god did his deeds through jesus..i think in some verses of the bible jesus states something to the effect of "please don\'t credit me with these magnificant feats,..i\'am doing thework of god" maybe this is how some "interpret" jesus is god...

Wow...that was an excellent quote of something from somewhere. That\'s...great.

Here\'s a few:
John 1:1 -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John: 1:14 -- "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."

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John 8:58 -- Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

John 8:59-A -- "Then they took up stones to throw at Him..."

2 Peter 1:20 -- "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation."

2 Peter 1:21 -- "For prophecy never came by the will of man, let holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit."

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« Reply #181 on: May 19, 2005, 05:49:32 PM »
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"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

John 17:3


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"Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on Him that sent me. And he that seeth me, seeth Him that sent me." (...) For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.


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"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt. 24:36)


"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46).

"O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt. 26:36))Jesus Praying to god.)

"No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)

"Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37)

John 14:28: "My Father is greater than I."

"I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I of myself but He sent me." (John 8:42)

John 7:16 "Jesus answered them and said, \'My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.\' "

John 14:24 "He who does not love me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not mine but The Father\'s who sent me."

John 4:34 "Jesus said to them, \'My food is to do the will of Him who sent me, and to accomplish His work.\' "

John 5:19 "Verily, verily I say unto you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do..."

John 15:2 "My Father takes away every branch in me that bears not fruit; he purges it; that it may bring forth more fruit."

John 8:31 "You are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God” This ones good.

Mark 10:18 "And Jesus said to him, \'Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.\' " thats a good one as well.

John 10:29 "My Father is greater than all."

John 14:28 "My Father is greater than I."

Jn.20:17 Jesus said "I am ascending to my Father and your Father to my God and your God."

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Very Good One.



There some quotes from the bible saying Jesus is not god, but was sent by god and is someone which god speaks threw.
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