Does the [Enter Console Here] have what it takes to compete this fall?

Originally posted by IronFist
Are you kidding?  I didn\'t see one add for the PS2 on TV until the day before launch (I saw a TTT comercial right before DBZ).  Sony didn\'t advertise at all.  They let the hype sell the systems.

Where do you live?  I get my cable stations from ATL.

Originally posted by IronFist
Are you kidding?  I didn\'t see one add for the PS2 on TV until the day before launch (I saw a TTT comercial right before DBZ).  Sony didn\'t advertise at all.  They let the hype sell the systems.

I saw tons of commercials pre-launch. The news stories didn\'t hurt either...

Let this be proof that Soul Reaver has the intelligence of a pearot.

There is nothing wrong with my comment.  Quit talking out of your a**.  You said CG would be coming out FEb..or MArch....I said xbox would be coming out spring2002.   March is early spring 2002.  whats stupid about that??  Mabe feb. is not included in there.

by Jumpman:

 Your blowing this 500 million dollar advertising campaign totally out of proportion. I know Sony spends that much a year, and Nintendo spends 250million yearly. Also, that money is not for every year, it is for 18 months(I\'m talking about MS\'s campaign).

Now lets use our brains and turn 500 million into a yearly number. To do that, we must take 33% of of it. 500 divided by 3=166.7(rounded off). 500- 166.7= 333.3 ...which means MS is only speading 83.3 million dollars more than Nintendo spends yearly. LOL! NOT THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE! And your talking about Nintendo here. Wern\'t they the leaders of gaming for two straight generations? They know better than anyone how to advertise!

HA!

By using simple mathematical skills I proved that MS\'s marketing compaign isn\'t that big!!!WOO HOO!

Oh wait that should be commen knowledge...damn...

Oh yeah, GameCube\'s advertising compaign has already begun. That\'s also commen knowledge. I\'m not even going to tell you how Nintendo is advertising GameCube in mass numbers now because I wanna see you whine some more.  

*go Jumpman. It\'s your birth-day. Go Jumpman. It\'s your birth-day*

dont go into business dude....cause you know nothing about it.  Sony might spend that much a year....but THEY DONT SPEND ALL OF IT ON ADVERTISING ITIOT!:D LOL.....and you thought you were smart.  LOL  OMFG  LOL!!!

Sony has stated that there advertising budget for ps2 is 20 million.  Nintendo has stated that there advertising with probully be half of that.  All these other numbers you are coming up with are bulls***.  

But ALL THAT 500 million dollars is DEDICATED to advertising!!!  

by Jumpman:
Hey Soul Reaver, according to you, what\'s the first day of spring?    

IT\'S MARCH 20 YOU IMBECILE! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I\'M LOVING THIS! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

AND how is my comments inconsistant with this dude?  me an imecile?? LOL thats funny.  My only mistake was making my comment too broad to include feb.  and when it come to gaming that not really a mistake.  If a game is released in feb...its considered part of the spring list.  The fact of the matter is....YOU said GC will be hitting Feb. or March....I said those are early spring dates which is consistant with the release date of the xbox as well "early" spring 2002.  March is part of the spring season.  nuff said.

You completely over exagerated my comments like I said spring starts in august?  All in an attempt to make me look stupid??  LOL....You are not even near my intellegence dude give it up...you are out matched.  All you did was make yourself look foolish..

But dont stop now dude!!!  Your on a roll.....all your other post make you look foolish too!!!:D way to go

And please, be honest with yourself. MS are the advertising giants of the software world ther eis no question about that.

by weltall:

most used OS because 99.9% of computers come with Windows pre-installed. Your only other choice is the incredibly overpriced Apple. Advertising has no effect whatsoever on Windows\' sales. If computers still had Windows 95 standard, no one would use 98 or ME. The only reason anyone does use 98 or ME is because they bought computers with 98 or ME on them already. Very few people bother to upgrade.

Microsoft is really new to advertising wholesale. For one thing, they mostly cater to businesses, and selling to businesses is very different from selling to a consumer. You rarely see a consumer-targeted MS ad. MS is going into a completely new and alien market, and they have almost no experience at what they are doing. They are not advertising giants at all.

SOme of this is true and some of its not.  Just about everyone is familliar with windows xp now arent they?  but its not on any computer out there is it.  

True...alot of people know of windows becuase it comes installed on their pc\'s.  But it was not always like this.  Back in the day MS advertised like a mad dog.....AND made very lucrative patnerships with other companies to have windows installed on their pc\'s.  This partnership thing has alot to do with advertising my friend.....in fact...ITS THE BEST KIND.  Because of it...EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT windows is ....pretty much!

Sounds like advertising to me buddy!  And then on ALL these pc\'s you see a little sticker that says:
                 Designed for Windows 98

sounds like advertisng to me.  You go to ANY computer retailer and you are GAURANTED to see window ads whether it be ME or 2000.  Sounds like advertising to me.  

So dont give this crap about MS not knowing about advertising and not being advertising giants cause they are.  They are the advertising giants of software and NO ONE IN THE SOFTWARE BUSINESS COMES CLOSE.  Its true that they have never advertised on such a level for hardware...but.....these guys definately know how to play the game, and there is no way you can deny that.  Its not all that different.

To Soul Reaver:

Here\'s a list of Gamecube games coming this year:

NBA Courtside 2002  
All-Star Baseball 2002  
Pikmin  
Extreme-G 3 (XG3 Extreme Racing)  
Eternal Darkness  
Batman: Dark Tomorrow  
Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II  
Madden NFL 2002  
NFL Quarterback Club 2002  
NHL Hitz 2002  
Luigi\'s Mansion  
NFL Blitz 2002  
Wave Race: Blue Storm  
Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX
Super Smash Bros. Melee  
Star Fox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet  
Crazy Taxi
SSX Tricky  
NBA Street

I think that\'s a descent amount of games to be out in less than 4 months from now. Other solid titles like Resident Evil 0, PSO V2.0, and Thornado will be out by Q2 of 2002. Details about Zelda and Matio will be disclosed at Spaceworld.

I\'ve never heard of this $10 million figure that you say Nintendo will spend. Last time I heard, Nintendo will use half the money that Sony will spend, which is $500 million. It\'s not known whether that\'s money for the GC and GBA combined, or if they will have separate budgets. I can\'t prove this though, since I don\'t have a solid link to provide you... which all your posts so far seem to be lacking.

There is nothing wrong with my comment. Quit talking out of your a**. You said CG would be coming out FEb..or MArch....I said xbox would be coming out spring2002. March is early spring 2002. whats stupid about that?? Mabe feb. is not included in there.

Quit being a gimp. March 20 is the first day of spring. FEB IS NOT INCLUDED IN SPRING, IT\'S PART OF WINTER. You know, that season where the snow falls al ot?

March 20-April 15 is technically early spring, fool. If Nintendo can\'t get it out in FEB, then chances are it will come out not too long into april. I heard March 20 was the absolute latest when it will be released. Blah blah blah it means Xbox isn\'t getting a lead on GameCube in ANY region.

 

dont go into business dude....cause you know nothing about it. Sony might spend that much a year....but THEY DONT SPEND ALL OF IT ON ADVERTISING ITIOT! LOL.....and you thought you were smart. LOL OMFG LOL!!!

Sony has stated that there advertising budget for ps2 is 20 million. Nintendo has stated that there advertising with probully be half of that. All these other numbers you are coming up with are bulls***.

But ALL THAT 500 million dollars is DEDICATED to advertising!!!

Read hyper\'s post, he seems to be talking out of his ass too right? :rolleyes:

It\'s common knowledge by now that Sony spends 500 million on marketing and Nintendo spends half that much every year.

And you thought you were right....LOL OMFG LOL!!!

BTW- since you ignored the part where I said NGC\'s advertising campaign has already begun, I\'ll tell you how it is: GameBoyAdvance. On the US box of GBA, it has a picture of it connectting to GameCube. Now every one who owns a GBA in the US and Europe knows about the GameCube. Heh...like I said, Nitendo is the king of advertising.

AND how is my comments inconsistant with this dude? me an imecile?? LOL thats funny. My only mistake was making my comment too broad to include feb. and when it come to gaming that not really a mistake. If a game is released in feb...its considered part of the spring list. The fact of the matter is....YOU said GC will be hitting Feb. or March....I said those are early spring dates which is consistant with the release date of the xbox as well "early" spring 2002. March is part of the spring season. nuff said.

You completely over exagerated my comments like I said spring starts in august? All in an attempt to make me look stupid?? LOL....You are not even near my intellegence dude give it up...you are out matched. All you did was make yourself look foolish..

But dont stop now dude!!! Your on a roll.....all your other post make you look foolish too!!! way to go

 Feb is not apart of the spring season no matter how you look at it.

Also, I\'m out-matched? Please. I\'ve been making you look like a fool all along, well, you helped too I guess.

Now please stop talking out of your ass and for god\'s sakes USE PROPER GRAMMAR!!! I\'m getting tired of all your .... and all your obvious spelling mistakes. Can you not find the spell checker?

ITIOT? Imecile? Intellegence? It seams your brain does not function properly when your ubset. Calm down and use common sense for once, imbecile(that\'s how you spell it the right way )..

I thought businesses measured everything in quarters, not seasons! :nut:

Quit being a gimp. March 20 is the first day of spring. FEB IS NOT INCLUDED IN SPRING, IT\'S PART OF WINTER. You know, that season where the snow falls al ot?

Like I said before....My mistake is not very big.  I fact its barely a mistake.  You are saying that xbox has no chance of beating xbox to the European market....Ive proved that Nintendo might not be hitting the european market before xbox.  From what I\'ve seen...there dates overlap.  Both could be hitting spring duffus.  What part about that do you NOT understand duffus?

by Jumpman:
Feb is not apart of the spring season no matter how you look at it.

Also, I\'m out-matched? Please. I\'ve been making you look like a fool all along, well, you helped too I guess.

 

See thats your problem dude....YOu THINK youve been making me look like a fool.  They say ignorance is bliss.  You\'ve been proving this saying true alot lately.  If I could only get the transcripts from consoledome dude................  Your post were hilarious.

by Jumpman:
Now please stop talking out of your ass and for god\'s sakes USE PROPER GRAMMAR!!! I\'m getting tired of all your .... and all your obvious spelling mistakes. Can you not find the spell checker?  

ITIOT? Imecile? Intellegence? It seams your brain does not function properly when your ubset. Calm down and use common sense for once, imbecile(that\'s how you spell it the right way :laughing..

 You name the subject young buck...and I will lap you in it .

This is funny cause you are like 15 in grade school and Im a year and half away form graduating college with a CS degree....LOL.  do even know what a derivative is dude?:rolleyes:  You are not on my level.  

So I dont "type" in proper grammer....BIG DEAL....I type what im thinking and if I type Improper grammer....so be it.  SO I use incorrect spelling..BIG DEAL....you understood what word I meant.  See You fail to realize that this is NOT A TERM PAPER DUDE!!!  I could careless I my s*** is "proper" or spelled correctly.  People can let loose here buddy....

Like I said before....My mistake is not very big. I fact its barely a mistake. You are saying that xbox has no chance of beating xbox to the European market....Ive proved that Nintendo might not be hitting the european market before xbox. From what I\'ve seen...there dates overlap. Both could be hitting spring duffus. What part about that do you NOT understand duffus?

Saying February is apart of spring is a mistake. Saying Xbox has no chance of beating Xbox to the  European market is also a mistake... But nonetheless it IS a mistake, your just too ignorant to admit it. I mean, surely someone who\'s almost ready to graduate should know that Feb is not apart of spring. Thus, no overlapping occurs.

Also, you barely proved anything. Chances are Nintendo will get out in Europe before Xbox unless something happens. I\'ve never ruled out the possibility of Xbox beating NGC to the punch, it\'s just extremely unlikely.

See thats your problem dude....YOu THINK youve been making me look like a fool. They say ignorance is bliss. You\'ve been proving this saying true alot lately. If I could only get the transcripts from consoledome dude................ Your post were hilarious.

Maybe I\'m not the one who\'s being ignorant? Ever ponder that possibility?

Also, I\'ve changed a lot since consoledome went down. That should be obvious.

You name the subject young buck...and I will lap you in it .

You got it. How about we finish up the marketing campaign argument? You know? The one where you  foolishly claimed MS\'s marketing campaign was 50 times as big as Nintendo\'s. Please, let\'s continue.

This is funny cause you are like 15 in grade school and Im a year and half away form graduating college with a CS degree....LOL. do even know what a derivative is dude? You are not on my level.

Do you know what\'s even more funny?

You thought february was apart of spring! LMAO!

Let me ask you this: did anyone know what derivative meant when they were 15?

Listen, I get 90\'s in all my subjects. I\'ve been suspended 4 times, thus, lowering my class mark for some classes. Do you honestly believe when you were 15, you were just as smart as I am know? I seriously doubt it. Your failing to realize that your not getting any where in this argument and I\'m supposedly not on your level. That tells you something.

So I dont "type" in proper grammer....BIG DEAL....I type what im thinking and if I type Improper grammer....so be it. SO I use incorrect spelling..BIG DEAL....you understood what word I meant. See You fail to realize that this is NOT A TERM PAPER DUDE!!! I could careless I my s*** is "proper" or spelled correctly. People can let loose here buddy....

What you think I\'m not loose enough? I don\'t come in here and try to sound all smart using big words( like Avatarr does). Fine, I simply don\'t care what you do anymore. I still think you should know how to spell common words like "intelligence" and "grammar" though...but, carry on in your own way if that makes you feel better.

And oh.......Jumpman.  You claim you are so smart.....then why did you fabricate the european launch date?

  You said GameCube will launch in feb but march at the latest.  Did you NOT think I was going to check this out?????   The european luanch date has been set.....AND NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FEB as a possible release date.

NINTENDO THEMSELVES say that they european launch date is SPRING 2002.  Apparently your the type who makes s*** up cause you completely made up that feb GC possibility release date.

nintendo.com

but wait????  The xbox\'s release date in europe is spring 2002 too.:rolleyes:

And people want to know how rumors get started?:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Soul_Reaver
And oh.......Jumpman.  You claim you are so smart.....then why did you fabricate the european launch date?

  You said GameCube will launch in feb but march at the latest.  Did you NOT think I was going to check this out?????   The european luanch date has been set.....AND NOWHERE DOES IT SAY FEB as a possible release date.

NINTENDO THEMSELVES say that they european launch date is SPRING 2002.  Apparently your the type who makes s*** up cause you completely made up that feb GC possibility release date.

nintendo.com

but wait????  The xbox\'s release date in europe is spring 2002 too.:rolleyes:

And people want to know how rumors get started?:rolleyes:

What? You think I would lie like you did when you said Sony\'s advertising compaign was 20 million and Nintendo\'s was half that much?

I remember what I heard. I didn\'t hear Feb from CVG.com, but I definitely didn\'t just pull it out of my ass. I have more honor than that. If I\'m wrong, then I have the guts to admit it.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/story.cfm?sid=2954

Article where I heard first day of spring for GameCube\'s launch(which is March 20 incase you forgot). I\'ll look for that Feb link and in the meanwhile you look for the link where it says all that **** about Sony\'s and Nintendo\'s campaign.