PS2 Will Never Compete Graphically With Xbox...End of Story (56K Warning)!!!!

Brute Force--Microsoft



SWAT: GST--Sierra



These are first generation Xbox games and PS2 games will NEVER reach this level of quality no matter what generation because developers are already using effects on the Xbox that the PS2 simply can\'t replicate.  If you doubt that these are real-time, they are.  If you notice the Brute Force pics, the models aren\'t extremely high-poly, it\'s just the self-shadowing and lighting effects that make them look CG-quality.  I haven\'t seen ONE PS2 game that even attempts to look this good.  This is a graphics discussion so I don\'t want any gameplay conversations.  But this is a slap in the face of those in denial who say that there won\'t be a noticable difference between Xbox and PS2 games.  If this isn\'t noticable, then you\'re a blatant fanboy.  Thank gawd PS2 has a large user-base to protect its future, because if it didn\'t, it would be already over.  It doesn\'t take a fool to realize that Sony dropped the ball hardware-wise with the PS2.



Only 6 pics max ------ ddaryl

My god..
PS2 is FU(KED! :shy:

Oh.. And you\'ve broken the rule..
6 picture limit..

Yeah, PS2 is fncked from a graphical standpoint.  But this isn\'t a "PS2 is fncked!" thread.  PS2 is here to stay, there\'s no question about that, however, it will be the most graphically inferior console this generation...and by a long shot.

I think your forgeting something here..

Learning curve using the PS2 hardware..
Developers has said its very steap..

And I think this is pretty good for a "inferior" console..




Oh yeah.. Its made by a pritty smal Belgium developer..
Time left in development: 6 months

Hahahahahaha!!! How did I know you were going to post that?  Is that all you have?  That\'s weak.  Last year those graphics would have been amazing.  Sorry, but Xbox has just raised the bar.  The backgrounds in that pic sucks...speaking of backgrounds, where\'s the background in the first pic?  Looks like a tech demo to me!  Kind of like that Namco girl when the PS2 was first unvieled.  Show me a screen with more than one character or object of the same detail on screen at once and I\'ll be amazed.  Otherwise, it\'s nothing amazing.

I hope those are all real-time.  They look really cool.  We\'ll see.

Looks nice to me

Btw, those Xbox screens do look nice..
But.. the backgrounds dont look too crisp there either..

That Swat game or whatever has nice lighting..

That redhead in the first post is BOOTYLICIOUS or my name isn\'t "Emperor-bigpenis-Rob"

Anyone who thinks this game looks worse then anything on PS2 is ignorant,Blind, and a HUGE idiot. Sure, MGS2 might be the nicest looking PS2 game on the block, but it can\'t touch this.

Originally posted by EmperorRob
That redhead in the first post is BOOTYLICIOUS or my name isn\'t "Emperor-bigpenis-Rob"

But your name isn\'t "Emperor-bigpenis-Rob" , and she is just a whole load of 0 and 1 on a computer SHEEEEeeeee is Not Real ROB !


Get over it !


and No making sweat love to your X box won\'t doo.....

well, i must say that im impressed by the lighting of the xbox according to those shots....i thought the ps2 had the best lighting effects compared to the DC and what ive seen of the gamecube...
and i say this because the ps2 lighting actually feels real..nlike the other consoles,  but i have to admit that these xbox shots are looking really good and the lighting looks amazing...got to check them out in action though for the final judgment.

I will only be impressed by any game on any system when i see it during gameplay.

oh see, there we have that xbox fanboy who was suppoed "to come in peace":rolleyes:  yeah i remeber you, you look no better than the other ones we had, you look alot like "Docwiz"

But you are right about that ps2 cannot compete with xbox graphically, just like xbox wont compete with ps2 in terms of user base. Its not all about the graphics like you xbox fans say. There is something called fun and gameplay, which I personally find lacking in most of Ms\' games.

yeah ps2 must watch out :rolleyes:

I am not too impressed by the first lot of screens you posted, however, the SWAT game by Sierra does look very promising. Can PS2 compete? I honestly don\'t know.. these graphics presented in SWAT: GST are very good, although it\'s the lightning and great high res textures that makes this title look so good. You might deny this, but streaming textures has been the biggest problem on PS2-Hardware to date. Games like GT3, Final Fantasy X have finally gotten hold of it a little, so I think we will also see great improved in this department. At least to say, I hope we will. Seing that Outcast 2 (from a small developer) is looking this good so far and that at 60 fps is very good news for us PS2 fans. Speaking of texture detail:




aren\'t these beautiful textures and lightning?

then, we have this \'other\' Rally game.. that africa ... game, that appearently kills GT3 graphic wise. I am too lazy to look for those first screens, but from what I have seen, texture detail and landscapes are amazing, just like in the two screens above (which represent in-game graphics, I believe). So, can the PS2 do this? I sure hope so. If games like WRC and others can look that good (with textures like that), then I don\'t see why a FPS couldn\'t.

BTW: I believe that MGS2 is first generation aswell. I\'d call GT3 second generation (since the graphics engine had been rebuilt after TGS 2000).

MGS2 is/will be 2nd generation. A year has already passed for PS2, a year and a half for Japan. It doesn\'t matter when the graphics engine was built for it, it matters when it is released.

and GT3\'s textures suck, it\'s prowess is in it\'s precision cars and great lighting effects.


Eric Jacob