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Offline burbecks
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« on: January 24, 2002, 11:00:08 AM »
I read CS2x\'s post & dispite the fact that everyone seemed to disagree I also have heard these rumors & read the edge post he is talking about. Maybe the Atari will make a comeback with infograms????????
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2002, 11:18:26 AM »
Ok, that\'d be a BAD comeback. I think we have enough controversey in the console market today.

M$ thought they could do just as well if not better because they make Winblows, but they aren\'t. And from what people (such as mm) have stated, they are loosing money on EACH CONSOLE THEY SELL. It\'s in plain english and common sence. How can they market something that has nVidia\'s GF3, 64MB of DDR memory, 8GB HDD, motherboard, and an Intel PIII 733Mhz processor at $299? It ain\'t possible. That\'s why it\'s going to take years before they start seeing pennies in their bank account.

Atari had better have a lot of money and a stable foundation if they want to pull something off successfully this time around, especially in today\'s market. M$, Nintendo, and Sony will eat em alive if they don\'t succeed.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2002, 11:45:41 AM »
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Ok, that\'d be a BAD comeback. I think we have enough controversey in the console market today.

M$ thought they could do just as well if not better because they make Winblows, but they aren\'t. And from what people (such as mm) have stated, they are loosing money on EACH CONSOLE THEY SELL. It\'s in plain english and common sence. How can they market something that has nVidia\'s GF3, 64MB of DDR memory, 8GB HDD, motherboard, and an Intel PIII 733Mhz processor at $299? It ain\'t possible. That\'s why it\'s going to take years before they start seeing pennies in their bank account.



All consoles have sold for less than they cost to make...ALL!  Sony just started to make money off the PS2...M$ doesn\'t expect to make money for about 5 years, but they get their name on the market, a fanbase, and win over some developers in the long run...this will amount to Xbox 2(hope it\'s not called that).

And by the way, Xbox is doing very well.   With US numbers only, they are about where PS2 was in the same time frame. (US only)

PS2 launched in Nov 2000, sold 1.3 million by Jan. 2001.

Xbox launched Nov 2001, sold 1.5 million by Jan. 2002.

Looks to be right on track...wouldn\'t you say?
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2002, 11:52:01 AM »
jm, if you don\'t understand anything about the industry prehaps you shouldn\'t make posts that claim that you do.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2002, 11:52:35 AM »
there\'s no room for a 4th console
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2002, 12:31:52 PM »
Don\'t you mean 3?

When did 3 consoles ever duke it out to the end?

NES vs SMS

Genesis vs SNES

Saturn vs PS vs N64

DC vs PS vs N64

DC vs PS2

PS2 vs GC vs XBox

History will repeat itself...
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2002, 12:47:32 PM »
There is room for 3 consoles--the industry is much bigger than it was even two years ago.  More people are playing games than ever before.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2002, 01:14:21 PM »
Watchdog, that was my vision on what I see today. Some information being factual and some being my own opinion. It shouldn\'t take me pointing out to you that it is my opinion. Certain catch phrases and clues should indicate it was my 2 cents into the topic, so just lay off.

Atari being a division of Midway (no?) would have to have a lot of developer support and a lot of money to become as successful as Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony to compete. If they don\'t have a stable developer base, decent hardware, and a clear future in front of them, they will fail.

I know that when a specific company releases X product it will take time to make profit.

How about you go check out that good article on Gamespot.com and read up on Atari\'s history, you\'ll see what I mean.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2002, 03:11:54 PM »
Sure if you like to post in ignorance go ahead.

The fact that MS is losing money on every console shouldn\'t be noteworthy (it has always been that way with consoles), shouldn\'t be a cause for concern, shouldn\'t need to be printed in all caps, and definitely shouldn\'t be in red type (and "sence" shouldn\'t be written like that).

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M$ thought they could do just as well if not better because they make Winblows, but they aren\'t. And from what people (such as mm) have stated, they are loosing money on EACH CONSOLE THEY SELL. It\'s in plain english and common sence. How can they market something that has nVidia\'s GF3, 64MB of DDR memory, 8GB HDD, motherboard, and an Intel PIII 733Mhz processor at $299? It ain\'t possible. That\'s why it\'s going to take years before they start seeing pennies in their bank account.
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You obviously don\'t know how the industry works or you wouldn\'t have made a post like this.  It takes every console maker years to make money.

And I don\'t need to read up on Atari\'s history, my comment wasn\'t in favour of a comeback, I was just setting you straight.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2002, 03:59:33 PM »
jm = old school

he know exactly how things run.  no matter how much defending the xbox gets, it will NEVER, EVER surpass the PS2.  

now that i own one, i can go as far as to say the xbox is a  hype FAILURE!  out a year after the PS2, more powerfull, and even adding the sales of GC\'s, the PS2 is still selling more.

after beating halo, i havent touched my xbox.  where\'s the A+ titles?

/me does a litttle dance as the xbox zealouts rage
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2002, 04:51:02 PM »
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jm = old school

he know exactly how things run.  no matter how much defending the xbox gets, it will NEVER, EVER surpass the PS2.

now that i own one, i can go as far as to say the xbox is a  hype FAILURE!  out a year after the PS2, more powerfull, and even adding the sales of GC\'s, the PS2 is still selling more.


Hype failure?  In what way?  Let\'s discuss this...


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after beating halo, i havent touched my xbox.  where\'s the A+ titles?

/me does a litttle dance as the xbox zealouts rage [/B]


They\'re coming...If you need reminding, PS2 didn\'t have a steady flow of AAA games for several months after launch...

Xbox has...Wreckless, Jet Grind Radio, Brute Force, House of the Dead 3, Elderscrolls, Gun Valkerie, Unreal Championship, Sega GT 2002, Genma Onimusha and a few others due by the end of March.

Some look to have that AAA potential...
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2002, 05:57:13 PM »
mm you are quite the troll.  Go argue with tshirts.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2002, 06:06:35 PM »
nah, ill wait instead for you to disprove me

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2002, 06:22:21 PM »
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nah, ill wait instead for you to disprove me

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How can you be disproven when you haven\'t proven anything?

Give some reasons for thinking that Xbox was a "hype failure", then we can debate it...as for now, you got nothin\'...
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2002, 06:28:24 PM »
oh a wise guy huh?

nyuk nyuk!
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