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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2002, 10:22:41 AM »
yes data, i know what shimmering is

look at the pic above

find a texture in the show in fron of the red car

look at the billboards

shimmering dissapears in screen cartures?
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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2002, 10:36:29 AM »
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yes data, i know what shimmering is

look at the pic above

find a texture in the show in fron of the red car

look at the billboards

shimmering dissapears in screen cartures?
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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2002, 10:44:02 AM »
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yes data, i know what shimmering is

look at the pic above

find a texture in the show in fron of the red car

look at the billboards


Actually mm, that also has to do with the filtering technique they use. :) But I suppose it\'s a matter of preference, would you prefer shimmering textures in the distance? Or blurred ones? The blurred ones are easy to spot in screenshots, but when you are playing, it isn\'t as distracting as the shimmering ones.. at least to me anyway.

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« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2002, 11:00:01 AM »
actually i prefer neither [shimmering or blurring]

it doesnt matter if thats a PS2, xbox, or GC shot
they are crappy to what i expect from a "next-gen" console

it yer satisfied with them, thats fine too

*blatant xbox bash disclaimer*
but i expect more from a brand new $300 console that was supposed to be the "ps2 killer"
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« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2002, 11:05:08 AM »
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but i expect more from a brand new $300 console that was supposed to be the "ps2 killer"





And I expected ToyStory graphics from my $300 playstation 2, and waht did I get instead...ahhhhhh

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« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2002, 11:10:57 AM »
oh, i didnt know i had to pull yer string to make you talk
nice attempt tho
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« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2002, 11:23:00 AM »
Someone posted these screens late last night.  It\'s incredible!!1  :D




I\'m getting this game, and if the trees look like this......I\'m going to be shock!!1 :eek:



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« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2002, 11:25:37 AM »
/me puts on flame retardant suit

still WAY too much blur for my tastes
vegetation looks good tho, almost as good as vrally3
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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2002, 11:49:02 AM »
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The fact of the matter is, PS2\'s image quality is not as good as the Xbox, jaggies or not, the PS2\'s output is still gonna look slightly worse than the Xbox. And I\'m saying slightly to be nice. I have *sigh* 20 PS2 games, and most of them suffer from The PS2 Syndrome (tm).

Most of the Xbox games that are not up to par (in graphics,) come from lame American developers who weren\'t that great to begin with. Just because the Xbox has the potential doesn\'t automatically mean all games are going to look great. Let the Japanese try their hand at the beast, and they will show what it can do. Take SEGA\'s JSRF (a beauty to behold,) or of course the gameplay lacking DOA3. Two games from developers that know their graphics.
 



i couldnt agree with you more  actually - i feel the same way i know that xbox has and will have greater graphics dont get me wrong - i know the xbox can do a lot more then what its doing now and i do believe in the hands of the more experienced devs graphics will shine through in a sense but until those devs start stepping up i am finding my self displeased with the games i see

PS2 like you said is at fault as well - they are trying too hard to out do graphics of xbox and thats not gonna happen - they should focus more on the gameplay and imo game length - as in content - too many games are failing to last long now adays and they are more movies then games - its a sad things really
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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2002, 12:20:31 PM »
Here\'s another review at Gamepen.ugo.com

Score:  5 out of 5 stars.
Pros: Fantastic arcade rally game, incredible graphics, nice multiplayer
Cons: No system link, some races are very difficult




Long straight, medium right, yeah baby…
 
Rally racing is something that is really big in Europe but for whatever reason hasn’t really picked up in the US.  Like soccer, rally racing is very underrated; it is a very difficult sport, and, with mud and snow flying around, it can be a very dirty one too.
 
You may be asking, what’s the big difference between ‘traditional’ stock car racing and rally racing.  Well, in a nutshell, you know in NASCAR how you drive around in laps around a track and whoever is the leader at the end of the race wins? Rally is a lot different.  Instead of laps, you’ll be racing in real-world environments, over bridges, dirt, gravel, you name it.  And, you’ll be racing in segments of a road rather than laps.  You’ll be awarded points for the segments, and the winner is whomever comes out with the most points at the event end.  Basically, just finish first and you’ll be all set.
 
Microsoft has released RalliSport Challenge for Xbox, and, boy, is it a gorgeous sight.  NASCAR Heat and Project Gotham Racing had their graphical moments, but they can’t hold a candle to RalliSport Challenge.  This game is incredible in how gorgeous it is.  The cars, the track surface, the landscapes...  ooh la la.  Watching the cars take damage is a pretty neat thing to see as well; you’ll see cracked windshields and crinkled spoilers.  While the damage doesn’t seem to affect your car while driving all that much, it does look pretty.  Other neat graphical touches include the way the muffler spits out exhaust when shifting gears, the treads your ‘tyres’ leave, and the rustling of tree branches in the wind.
 
Variety is the spice of life, and RSC has more than 25 different cars, most of which are locked at the beginning.  While I’m not a big fan of locking stuff up in the game, kudos to the designers for telling you up front what’s locked and what you need to do in order to unlock it.
 
There are four different game modes of play, and in my opinion the most challenging type of race has to be the ice race.  Speed skating this isn’t; it’s very difficult to control your car but it is pretty darn fun.  (Sounds like short track to me, Mr.  Ohno.  -Jonah)  Other modes include the “hill climb” (without the “This car climbed Mount Washington” bumper sticker), traditional rally and rallycross.  There is a multiplayer option for split screen four player action, but nothing for system link—not that I have 4 Xboxes lying around.
 
Control is excellent with the Xbox controller, and I was a bit surprised by that.  A wheel is still the best way to play a racing game, but the Xbox controller doesn’t do a bad job handling powerslides.
 
In most rally games you’ll have a co-pilot that tells you what’s up ahead on the track.  Let’s say there’s a hairpin turn coming up.  The co-pilot will say “hairpin right.” Folks, I’ve played many a rally game for the PC and PS1, and by far this is the best co-pilot I’ve ever driven with.  Not only does he know what’s coming up, he gives you a good amount of warning so that you can drive accordingly.  The co-pilot will also alert you to off road obstacles, so if he says “medium right, don’t cut” that means don’t cut the corner, because there’s either water or rocks or some obstacle in the way.  As I mentioned, the co-pilot gives you more than enough time to take evasive action and I really appreciate that.
 
While this is an off-road rally game, you really can’t drive anywhere you like.  If you get caught too far off course, you’ll reset back on the track somewhere.  Also, if you roll over your vehicle, you’ll also be able to press the magic reset car button.

Microsoft shows off some Rally skill
 
Gameplay itself is very fast and very arcade-ish, not that there’s anything wrong with that.  Tweaks are limited to a few.  There are five options such as Gear Ratio, and you aren’t actually adjusting numbers; you’re changing it from ‘medium’ to ‘long’.  As I also mentioned earlier, the damage model doesn’t really affect the driving in the game.  You’ll be able to reset your car anyway in career mode although you’ll get a time penalty.  Another big tip here is to read the manual before you start playing.  The manual lists every item the co-pilot says, and why.  It should be essential reading and kudos to Microsoft for including this in their manual.  
 
The career mode is the area you’ll be spending the most time in especially if you want to unlock more races and cars.  You’ll be acquiring points to move on throughout the different types of rallies.  
 
Sounds are typical racing, but you’ll notice distinct sounds depending on the type of surface you are racing on.  The co-pilot is clear and much more audible than previous rally racing games I’ve played.  The music included with the game is very good (it goes with the European flair of the game), but also of note is the fact you can use your ripped audio throughout the game.  
 
Overall, while I wish there could be an option to choose strict sim realism or arcade realism, there’s really not much else to not like about RalliSport Challenge.  If you like driving a car and driving it fast you’ll really enjoy RSC.  Control can be hard on the ice surfaces, but I view it as a real-life learning experience.  This is hands down the best console racing game I’ve played in 2002.  


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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2002, 11:05:33 PM »
/me doesnt care about its graphics

/me is still waiting for Colin McRae 3

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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2002, 01:49:32 AM »
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when do pics ever do a gae justice though

here is irony for you - xbox fan saying you have to see it on tv - nothing against ya but i remember hearing that a lot by ps2 when jaggies occured

but anyway the game looks decent and i say that because the cars are lacking honestly and the backgrounds are great - so take great + lacking = decent

im only talking about graphics and nothing more as i havent played the game yet


where\'s the irony guy?

I\'m both a PS2 and XBox fan and I\'ve never complained about jaggies on PS2 games...and never judge a game from pics...have I ever said J&D looks like crap because most pics do not look good? or VF4 full of jaggies because pics show that?

I think you should look at this game carefully or clean your glasses because it looks great,not decent...and it\'s a fact,not an opinion...



I don\'t know if you\'ve seen the animations of the trees...and the cars look great too!

and about jaggies...you know that it\'s not a problem for the XBox,once dev will optimize use of memory and everything...

don\'t put XBox and PS2 on the same level when some guys speak or complain about jaggies!

...though I don\'t give a **** if other X fans complain about PS2 pics...
fact is XBox can do better quality images!
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« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2002, 02:02:11 AM »
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PS2 like you said is at fault as well - they are trying too hard to out do graphics of xbox and thats not gonna happen - they should focus more on the gameplay and imo game length - as in content - too many games are failing to last long now adays and they are more movies then games - its a sad things really


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« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2002, 03:28:35 AM »
so yer making excuses for the xbox right?
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« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2002, 03:43:31 AM »
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PS2 like you said is at fault as well - they are trying too hard to out do graphics of xbox and thats not gonna happen - they should focus more on the gameplay and imo game length - as in content - too many games are failing to last long now adays and they are more movies then games - its a sad things really


uhh..?  trying to outdo XBox in graphics?  who is?  no one is.. take a look at the games m8.. the games with the best graphics are also the games with the best gameplay..

FFX, J&D, MGS2 and more.  GTA3 doesnt have graphics that compare with XBox.. and was never intended to.. in fact, only J&D out of those games was ever built up by the developers to challenge XBox games, and it does that successfully.. the game isnt too short, in fact, IMO its the best platformer ever..

so out of all the games on PS2, which ones actually attempted to compete with XBox graphics, and out of those, which ones failed in the gameplay department.

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and about jaggies...you know that it\'s not a problem for the XBox,once dev will optimize use of memory and everything...

don\'t put XBox and PS2 on the same level when some guys speak or complain about jaggies!


what the hell??  you just made the EXACT same excuse that PS2 fanboys have been making for ages, then told us not to put XBox and PS2 on the same level when it comes to complaining about it..

"Wait until developers figure it out"

silly man  :p

 

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