splinter cell vs MGS2

You have rasta, I have Seven.

Leave me alone.

You have rasta, I have Seven.

Leave me alone.

Touché

Any game that the developers label a killer of another game,  I usually know what to expect, a cheap imitation

like comparing my penis to everyone elses.  i tell all the women i know (LOL! LIKE I KNOW ANY WOMEN!!) that its a real killer.. bit it turns out to be a cheap immitation..

You mean kinda like Cloud as opposed to... Clowd, right?

Devs haven\'t labelled it anything--its journalists and fanboys.

Originally posted by Watchdog
How Seven can love and praise MGS and say he\'s not interested in this game at all should be baffling, but since we know Seven as well as we do, there is no reason to be baffled.

How he can defend the texturing in MGS while being critical of SC also falls into the above category.

This game one ups MGS in every category.  Everyone\'s hands on impressions of this game have been glowing.  But Seven\'s not interested.

Hey Dawg, one simple question: did you even bother to download the movie above?

After watching that vid I must say the textures really isn’t anything to blow your load over..
The only thing that impressed me was the lightning (just as SH2 blew me away.. Very impressive lightning).
If they don’t overdo it, it can turn out pretty good..

The models (like you said) SUCKS.. The character you play as looks pretty detailed but the others look like they were grabbed from Rainbow Six (the first one).. Ugh

Now let see how the gameplay turns out..
Ive heard the game right now is pretty buggy (crashed alot at E3) and major framedrops.. If they sort those things out it can be good

How Seven can love and praise MGS and say he\'s not interested in this game at all should be baffling, but since we know Seven as well as we do, there is no reason to be baffled.

Seven, you yourself said this game is a lot like MGS2 and you gush all over that game.  This game should be great for you then, but you still face it with a grain of salt stating that MGS2 does not have poor texture work and Splinter Cell does... I don\'t understand when Splinter Cell clearly has a greater atmosphere thanks to the textures.  Two words for lazy texture work: Big Shell.  Need I say more?  That\'s right though, MGS2 is allowed to have poor textures for some reason and Splinter Cell is not.

I just don\'t get the logic here.  You know, it\'s okay to want to anticipate a game that will be fun on the XBox, there really is no crime in it.  This one appears to be great fun, why not just admit to that?  It\'s not like your life will end if you do.

Yeah I saw the movie.  To tell you the truth I\'m not really excited about this game--nor am I excited about any upcoming MGS games.  They are fine and all, but a little too scripted.  I  fear SC will be the same.

My only point is that MG has nothing on SC (incluing hair cut--yikes at Snake) from all appearances and impressions.  And someone who loves MGS as much as you do, has no reason not to anticipate this game as well.

If this was called MGS3 Snake Returns, a PS2 exclusive, EVERYONE here would be lapping it up, posting screen shots, marvelling at the improved graphics and lighting and talking about all the new moves and abilities that have been included.

It\'s always like that around here, and it\'s getting pretty tiresome.

Originally posted by Ryu
You mean kinda like Cloud as opposed to... Clowd, right?

Even though thats an insult, its still funny.

Ryu, you really disappoint me. Why is it suddenly, that when I have an opinion about something, that it\'s continuessly misunderstood as a bash towards Xbox? I really don\'t know what more to say, but that I judged this game as a PS2 game since it\'s multi platform - therefore giving me no reason to downrate this game because it\'s on Xbox. Hell, Fast above just voiced his opion about the underwhelming textures... are you going to take that as his opinion or also as a bash towards Xbox?

Seven, you yourself said this game is a lot like MGS2 and you gush all over that game. This game should be great for you then, but you still face it with a grain of salt stating that MGS2 does not have poor texture work and Splinter Cell does...

We were talking about gameplay when I was refering to MGS2 - not graphics. If you read my impressions on the video I gave, then I\'m sure you didn\'t miss out on me saying that I will leave out the gameplay aspects and only comment on the graphics (which I did).

I don\'t understand when Splinter Cell clearly has a greater atmosphere thanks to the textures. Two words for lazy texture work: Big Shell. Need I say more? That\'s right though, MGS2 is allowed to have poor textures for some reason and Splinter Cell is not.

I\'ve played MGS2 at a very frequentrate and never did I have the impression that the textures are weak. Also something that should be pretty obvious, is that Konami has a huge tallent into making MGS2 look realistic. MGS2 might not have the best textures, but it\'s still one of the most realistic games visually. Maybe talent?

What I can say though is, is that those textures presented in that movie above did struck me as quite ugly/cheap. Maybe talent?

I just don\'t get the logic here. You know, it\'s okay to want to anticipate a game that will be fun on the XBox, there really is no crime in it. This one appears to be great fun, why not just admit to that? It\'s not like your life will end if you do.

LOL and again, I never said it won\'t be fun, but only commented on the graphics. I hope you guys did get it this time, because I certainly won\'t point it out another time.

Originally posted by Watchdog
Yeah I saw the movie.  To tell you the truth I\'m not really excited about this game--nor am I excited about any upcoming MGS games.  They are fine and all, but a little too scripted.  I  fear SC will be the same.

My only point is that MG has nothing on SC (incluing hair cut--yikes at Snake) from all appearances and impressions.  And someone who loves MGS as much as you do, has no reason not to anticipate this game as well.

If this was called MGS3 Snake Returns, a PS2 exclusive, EVERYONE here would be lapping it up, posting screen shots, marvelling at the improved graphics and lighting and talking about all the new moves and abilities that have been included.

You see, I already voiced my opinion on the gameplay and agree that it has heaps of potential. The only thing that really bothers me right now are the graphics (see above for my impressions).

And if this was MGS3 - you bet I\'d be disappointed with the graphics.

Uh-huh.

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Watchdog
Uh-huh.

:rolleyes:

Watchy.. Sweety.. Its HIS opinion. Everyone has one!
Opinion is not a fact.. Respect his!

It\'s always like that around here, and it\'s getting pretty tiresome.

Yes.. This is such a terrible place.. No one is forcing you to stay.

Originally posted by seven


And if this was MGS3 - you bet I\'d be disappointed with the graphics.

If it were MGS3 you would end every post with "but there is plenty of room for improvement and I\'m sure they\'ll be fixed" as you are doing with the Getaway and it\'s disappointing previews so far...