Whew, that was a close one.

This is pathetic. Clowd do you think that if the world, the animals, humans, universe were have been created by GOD, the world would spent so much money investigating the beginning of the life and the universe?? You guy, go to scientists and say them: "mates, you have not to study any more. The universe was created by GOD and that\'s sufficient". And then scientists would stop studiying. P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C

Now, ok, let\'s suppose that GOD exists (stupid situation, me saying GOD exists ) why the hell then he let (support) the bad things on the Earth?? Why he let WTC disaster? Why he lets 5000 children dye every day for lack of food? Why he let hardships? Why he lets wars? Why he lets natural disasters? WHY?

If GOD exist, he would love us, GOD would be PERFECT, and that behaviours wouldn\'t be properly for a GOD.

And what do you think about Church? Church reprsents the theoric GOD on Earth. Then GOD may like sexual children a lot, he may like steal, he may like murder, he may like to do so much things for a GOD.

PD: Clowd I think you\'re joking us. I cannot understand how a person can think those things. It\'s simply incredible.

**laughing uncontrolably**

Mwa hahaha!!! This is the BEST thread I have ever read!  Great stuff, please god (whoops!), make this a sticky!

Hey kopking, if you\'re still feeling down, read this from begining to end. You\'ll feel 100 times better!

Anyway, I don\'t want this do die out, so I\'ll throw some fuel on the proverbial fire:

"Who created the creator? Doesn\'t everything have to come from somewhere? Where does your god get his power? If he creates and controls all we do, then why is there suffering? Pain?"

You think he\'d have seen that whole "satan" thing coming a mile away...

Also, if god made me, then why do I even believe in evolution? You think I\'d just believe what he wants me to believe.

**runs away dodging creationist gun-fire**

I already can see what he\'s gonna say...

"Well, God gave us free will, that\'s why he lets us do the things we do"

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Samwise
:eek::eek::eek:

Ok, now I just lost ALL respect for you (not that you care). It\'s not a theory. It\'s a FACT - why do you think there are jokes about toothless children playing the banjo, when two cousins marry (or rather brother and sister)? Because they get inbred (and the defects will show in time. I\'m not joking here Einstein.

And about the asteroid theory - it\'s just that - A F*CKING THEORY! I didn\'t pass it on as evidence or proof... like someone else here *cough* Clowd *cough*.

Get over it already.

Samwise,  scientists agree there were 2 man and woman in the start.  I know this for a fact.  Its been on the discovery channel a million times.  Ever see the real adam and eve special on the discovery channel?  Asexual reproduction for humans is nonsense

soul reaver please leave your off topic posts somewhere else, we are debating here,  im starting to dislike your 2 sentences stating im 12 or something lame like that please stop

shockwaves there is proof people have been on the earth for thousands of years, none for millions

shockwaves i have posted facts, incomplete skeletons, the left hand right hand amino acids, moses knowing the exact steps of earths creation

im not sure if its worth debating with people who think my opinions (which really are opinons of scientists, some who believe in evolution) are laughable, who thinks the world is getting better :rolleyes: (shockwaves please, just listen to my posts, dont just instantly deny them, i listen to yours and ponder them) and who thinks einstein is ignorant.

Also you seem stuck on evolution,  I know you dont believe in because you dont see him, there is another reason

as for the spelling,  my accuracy is 96% at 90 wpm

Clowd have you read "The chosen species"?
No I suppose.

Do it, and afterwards, read "Antichrist", by Nietzsche.
Nice book.

Originally posted by Clowd
Samwise,  scientists agree there were 2 man and woman in the start.  I know this for a fact.

You know this for a fact? Why didn\'t you just say that, then we could have saved all this typing...

Its been on the discovery channel a million times.  [/B]

Damn, you got me again. You know it for a fact AND it was on Discovery. I give up.

Originally posted by Clowd
shockwaves there is proof people have been on the earth for thousands of years, none for millions

shockwaves i have posted facts, incomplete skeletons, the left hand right hand amino acids, moses knowing the exact steps of earths creation

as for the spelling,  my accuracy is 96% at 90 wpm

Yes, but that doesn\'t mean they haven\'t been.  Most scientists believe we have been here for millions of years.

You never posted an incomplete skeleton that I saw, and no one knows how the earth was created, so that is not a fact.  All you have is the acids, and we have collectively posted much more than that.

And spelling...it\'s a lot less than 96% here :rolleyes:

I love how I asked you to show me where I was arguing against proven facts, the reason you were saying I\'m an uneducated moron, and you simply ignored it.  :o

Originally posted by Clowd


Samwise,  scientists agree there were 2 man and woman in the start.  I know this for a fact.  Its been on the discovery channel a million times.  Ever see the real adam and eve special on the discovery channel?  Asexual reproduction for humans is nonsense

Dude, does the stuff you read go in your ear and out the ****ing other?  I would like to see proof of those "scientists" that belive that there were a women and a man in the begining.  every scientist i hear from believes in the evolution of the cell.  And i didnt say humans reproduced Asexually, I said that early life did and many still do, you can see then the less complex animals use Asexual reproduction while the more complex use sexual (ie: humans).  **** now you use Tv as a reference for your proof of adam and eve, well you remember that special on Fox about big foot?

soul reaver please leave your off topic posts somewhere else, we are debating here,  im starting to dislike your 2 sentences stating im 12 or something lame like that please stop

his two sentences are better that your freacking essays on nonsense.

shockwaves there is proof people have been on the earth for thousands of years, none for millions

ya where is this proof...your brain?.  Stop saying there is proof without producing it.  So maybe not fully evovled humans existed millions of years ago but un developed ancestors of man did ......I fear this sentence will not make sense to you because it involves the evolution of humans.

shockwaves i have posted facts, incomplete skeletons, the left hand right hand amino acids, moses knowing the exact steps of earths creation

those arent ****ing facts!...back them up *****, you are just mumbeling this nonsense to us about moses and his 5000 years on earth.:rolleyes:

im not sure if its worth debating with people who think my opinions (which really are opinons of scientists, some who believe in evolution) are laughable, who thinks the world is getting better :rolleyes: (shockwaves please, just listen to my posts, dont just instantly deny them, i listen to yours and ponder them) and who thinks einstein is ignorant.

please, if these are opinions of scientists then they obviously do not believe in evolution.  Please enlighten us with proof of some of these scientsis.  Here you can use this to find your proof: http://www.google.com.

Also you seem stuck on evolution,  I know you dont believe in because you dont see him, there is another reason

Did anyone understand this?

as for the spelling,  my accuracy is 96% at 90 wpm[/b]

Maybe so but i would like to see your score on a grammar test.

Originally posted by Tom G



"Who created the creator? Doesn\'t everything have to come from somewhere? Where does your god get his power? If he creates and controls all we do, then why is there suffering? Pain?"


Also, if god made me, then why do I even believe in evolution? You think I\'d just believe what he wants me to believe.

**runs away dodging creationist gun-fire**

Are you expecting me to answer:  Because God is all powerful?

1).  Who created the creator?  No one,  He was the alpha and the omega.  The reason why you have trouble comprehending the creator not having a creator is because since you are human, you know nothing but creation.  You think everything has to have a beginning because thats all you\'ve known.

2). Doesnt everything have to come from somewhere?  If you are referring to what God used to make the universe, he used his abundance of energy.  Yes I know energy isnt mass but this is where the nuclear bomb comes in.  Scientists have proved that mass can be turned into energy and energy into mass,  the atomic bomb proved this with its uranium.  If you want to know more, just ask.

3).  Where does God get his power?  If a robot could think, it would ask you, its creator the same thing.  One thing that you must understand is that God is NOT human.0.

4). If he creates and controls all we do, then why is there suffering? Pain?  Because humans rebeled from him, so he let them rule themselves.  They wanted to rule themselves, and well, you see the outcome.  But those excerising faith in God will be delivered in Armageddon from this wicked world.

Im busy now but I will reply to more questions in a bit

Originally posted by Clowd


Are you expecting me to answer:  Because God is all powerful?

1).  Who created the creator?  No one,  He was the alpha and the omega.  The reason why you have trouble comprehending the creator not having a creator is because since you are human, you know nothing but creation.  You think everything has to have a beginning because thats all you\'ve known.

2). Doesnt everything have to come from somewhere?  If you are referring to what God used to make the universe, he used his abundance of energy.  Yes I know energy isnt mass but this is where the nuclear bomb comes in.  Scientists have proved that mass can be turned into energy and energy into mass,  the atomic bomb proved this with its uranium.  If you want to know more, just ask.

3).  Where does God get his power?  If a robot could think, it would ask you, its creator the same thing.  One thing that you must understand is that God is NOT human.0.

4). If he creates and controls all we do, then why is there suffering? Pain?  Because humans rebeled from him, so he let them rule themselves.  They wanted to rule themselves, and well, you see the outcome.  But those excerising faith in God will be delivered in Armageddon from this wicked world.

Im busy now but I will reply to more questions in a bit

Out of curiosity, if God always existed, then why is it so far fetched on the otherside of the arguement to say that life always existed?

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You can not deny evolution!!!!!

Well, that bat is making some poeple here jealous.

Originally posted by Soul Reaver
Well, that bat is making some poeple here jealous.

Namely, Clowd.

that bat is like me.

Big penis size to body size ratio.

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Originally posted by Kimahri
that bat is like me.

Big penis size to body size ratio.

Survival of the fitest.

By the way, does anyone even remember that a meteor came real close to hitting us?  Oh yeah, my original thread that took the left turn after like the first reply.