Whew, that was a close one.

Originally posted by shockwaves


Out of curiosity, if God always existed, then why is it so far fetched on the otherside of the arguement to say that life always existed?

Thats oranges and apples shockwaves.

BTW Kimhari you dont seem to know much about evolution or creation so your opinion is pretty much useless, so are your replys.  Guess what: Fox and the discovery channel are two different channels.  What wants to entertain , the other wants to educate.  I cant believe you compared the two.

There is proof people have been on earth millions of years because it took that long for our brain to evolve.  Guess what buddy, THAT AINT PROOF.  PERIOD

You say if those are opinions of scientists they dont believe in evolution?  Maybe they are reasonable individuals who actually take the facts and reason with them unlike you who just knocks down anything non evolution.

It may not be 5000, I think i was mistaken, it probably is 15,000 years humans have lived on earth, of course animals came before humans, something that moses wrote 5000 years ago and modern day scientists confirm today.

Enlighten you with proof?  Maybe I wouldnt have to if you watched TLC or the discovery channel instead of that brain melting MTV.

You know, its kind of foolish if someone doesnt believe the same theory as you do, to call them ignorant.

I will tell you this, like how the bible puts it, if you dont believe in God you are stupid.

OMG Vid... I think you just found the reincarnated form of Ron Jeremy!!!

As for the rest of 5 or 6 long thread of pure spamming garbage, I only have two things to comment on.. and surprisingly, I\'m going to be somewhat agreeing with clowd.

1. Samwise said the theory of Adam and Eve couldn\'t be true because of the massive cases of imbreeding and the retardation that follows.

*Looks at Clowd, Looks at Sammy\'s post, Looks at the middle east, looks at Sammy\'s post, Looks at DocWiz, Looks at Sammy\'s post, Looks at organized religeon, Looks at Sammy\'s post....*

Umm.. seems to me that we don\'t have all that great of a track record going on here.

2. Clowd says that man was created in god\'s image from materials on the earth. Well, I don\'t see many piles of unused flesh just laying around.. so if god made us out of Rock, mud, and dirt.. in his image.. that means he must be made out of mud, rock, and dirt himself. (Musta just changed the dirt to flesh cause walking mud people would just be silly) So based on that hypothosis, it\'s safe to assume that god looks like this:



Now come on... who in their right mind wouldn\'t want a god that looks like that? Come on you non-believers: IT\'s CLOBBERIN TIME!!!

(PS: I think the silver surfer or the Hulkster would have made a much better god.. but eh.. there\'s no accounting for taste)

Originally posted by Clowd
I will tell you this, like how the bible puts it, if you dont believe in God you are stupid.

Funny, what chapter is that in, I can\'t seem to find it.

You say if those are opinions of scientists they dont believe in evolution? Maybe they are reasonable individuals who actually take the facts and reason with them unlike you who just knocks down anything non evolution.

The same thing you do, anything non creationist, you knock down. Just because we don\'t believe in your opinions doesn\'t mean we are unreasonable.

Originally posted by SonyFan
2. Clowd says that man was created in god\'s image from materials on the earth. Well, I don\'t see many piles of unused flesh just laying around.. so if god made us out of Rock, mud, and dirt.. in his image.. that means he must be made out of mud, rock, and dirt himself. (Musta just changed the dirt to flesh cause walking mud people would just be silly) So based on that hypothosis, it\'s safe to assume that god looks like this:



Now come on... who in their right mind wouldn\'t want a god that looks like that? Come on you non-believers: IT\'s CLOBBERIN TIME!!!

(PS: I think the silver surfer or the Hulkster would have made a much better god.. but eh.. there\'s no accounting for taste)

ROFLMAO!

Originally posted by Clowd
Thats oranges and apples shockwaves

About the size of your brain would you say?

BTW Kimhari you dont seem to know much about evolution or creation so your opinion is pretty much useless, so are your replys.  Guess what: Fox and the discovery channel are two different channels.  What wants to entertain , the other wants to educate.  I cant believe you compared the two.

**** who the hell are you to say How much i understand about evolution.  Im not questioning how much you know about creation, sure you probably know lots, but all im saying, along with everyone here on the boards is that its useless brainwash.  And uhh, Tv was designed to entertain, not certain channels in particular.  Just becuase the discovery channel educates doesnt mean that it doesnt entertain, if it didnt no one would watch.  And whats this I hear?  My posts are useless and uneducated?  Well that sounds great coming from you, someone who got their education (and your proof?) from a fictional book.....The bible.  

There is proof people have been on earth millions of years because it took that long for our brain to evolve.  Guess what buddy, THAT AINT PROOF.  PERIOD

Sure.  But the discovery of a 10, 000 year old human isn\'t proof that humans didnt exist millions of years ago either.

You say if those are opinions of scientists they dont believe in evolution?  Maybe they are reasonable individuals who actually take the facts and reason with them unlike you who just knocks down anything non evolution

Im simply stating why I do not believe in creation.....with some cursive here and there......

It may not be 5000, I think i was mistaken, it probably is 15,000 years humans have lived on earth, of course animals came before humans, something that moses wrote 5000 years ago and modern day scientists confirm today

Who the **** are these modern scientists.  Come on Clowd, get some links and proof here, you keep pulling "modern scientists" out of your ass to explain everyting:rolleyes:

Enlighten you with proof?  Maybe I wouldnt have to if you watched TLC or the discovery channel instead of that brain melting MTV.

WTF?  Now you are telling me what i watch?  I Dont know why you watch TLC as the ratio of evolution programs to creation programs that they broadcast is probably 20:1, which is why TLC is the channel that I can honestly say I watch the most.

I will tell you this, like how the bible puts it, if you dont believe in God you are stupid. [/B]

I\'ll tell you like this.

Thats oranges and apples shockwaves.

Why exactly did you say this? Are you saying you can\'t make comparisons with what he brought up? How exactly is this orange/apple analogy going to help that point?

I can compare apples to oranges. Oranges are more tangy than apples. Apples are sweet. Personally, I prefer apples. There we go. I just compared apples to oranges.

Originally posted by M4

Why exactly did you say this? Are you saying you can\'t make comparisons with what he brought up? How exactly is this orange/apple analogy going to help that point?

I can compare apples to oranges. Oranges are more tangy than apples. Apples are sweet. Personally, I prefer apples. There we go. I just compared apples to oranges.

pfft. Oranges kick apples ass\'!

WTF ???? I thought we all here believed in god! If god don\'t exist then answer me this:

Who created the PS and the PS2? Evolution? NO WAY!! Who created FFI? Who created FFX? Evolution again? COME ON!!! Don\'t be ridiculous and answer me!!! Don\'t hide! I GOT YOU ALL!!! Now tell me god don\'t exist Clowd was right!:D

By the way, I love to point out this phrase when people start discussing god: "God is a thing with which we measure pain"

Please continue with this thread..... I LOVE IT!!!

Theres a well known saying that goes like this...

"People are always willing to discuss their religious beliefs with you, but they\'ll be damned if they\'re gonna listen to yours."

Anybody else feel like that fits in here..?

Again, If god really had so much power, he\'d just make everything perfect. The world- no, scratch that, the universe, would be like the Garden of Eden 24/7. Should be no problem with someone with so much power, right? But like most religious people, you comeback with "Because we rebeled against him." You seem to be his best friend, so why does he punish you so much? Is god really such a hardass that he holds a grudge against ALL of humanity, even his most devoted followers? Thats insane.

Another Simpsons quote:
Homer\'s take on God..

"He\'s my favorite fictional character."

PSXXX if your serious, and you believe in God, you are all that is needed to shut them up.  Once another member of the board besides me comes in and states his/her belief in God, they realize they are losing numbers, and will back off.  As long as they can feed off each other like parasites, their consistancy of calling my posts ignorant will continue.  Its really pathetic.

M4

i am saying you cant make comparisons with what he brought up, if you think you can, then your not thinking straight.  And all your little smart remarks make you look immature.  i made the apple orange comparison to show they are two different things.  As for saying my comparison doesnt help the point?  What do you mean?  Of course it dont help the point...

Sonyfan

, you know our body is made up mostly of water?  Is that SO shocking?  What do you eat when you are little?  Milk, apple sauce, as you get older you eat gyros, hamburgers, pizza.  Where do most of this food come from?  The earth.  The rest come from the earth inderectly.  So there you have it.

Do you think our body just stretches when it grows?

When God said we came from dust he ment we came from the earth, some things in the bible arent literal.

Kimhari

I know more about creation and evolution then you, from what I have heard from you.  Your replys have been the same:  we evolved that way.

The bible a fictional book?  Where has it been proved fictional?  Everything in it is true, and science cant prove otherwise.  There is only a little left that is not been fullfilled yet in Revalation

Adan

About that guy who made the 4 amino acids, if he kept the lightning on them, they would have die.  The problem is that evolution states amino acids formed in clowds with lightning, if this was the case lightning in the primitive world was constant in the clouds, and would have destroyed the acids instantly.

Soul Reaver

What chapter did i find it in?  If you read the bible once a year you may have remembered it.  Psalms 14:1


So far I have just gave out appetizers, here comes the main course.

Evolution states life polymerized in the ocean.  This doesnt makes sense because the primitive ocean favors depolymerization, thus cells cant polymerize and form life in primitive oceans.

You want a scientist?

"The probability of life generating by chance is comparable to the probability of a unabridged dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing shop."

-Biologist Edwin Conklin

I got more quotes from scientists if you want them.

You atheists are really something.  Your theory is just that.  Pure thoery.  At least creation can back it up with some facts.  Im yet to see one fact that supports evolution.

Face it, you all truly dont believe in evolution, you know there is a God,  you just dont understand everything, thats OK I can help

Originally posted by Tom G
Theres a well known saying that goes like this...

"People are always willing to discuss their religious beliefs with you, but they\'ll be damned if they\'re gonna listen to yours."

Anybody else feel like that fits in here..?

Again, If god really had so much power, he\'d just make everything perfect. The world- no, scratch that, the universe, would be like the Garden of Eden 24/7. Should be no problem with someone with so much power, right? But like most religious people, you comeback with "Because we rebeled against him." You seem to be his best friend, so why does he punish you so much? Is god really such a hardass that he holds a grudge against ALL of humanity, even his most devoted followers? Thats insane.

Another Simpsons quote:
Homer\'s take on God..

"He\'s my favorite fictional character."

Tom G I\'m listening to your evolution theories,  they just have no foundation.

Why does God not make everything perfect?  He did, but he gave some of his creation free will,  and with free will = free to do what you want.

Why does he hold a grudge against humanity?  This isnt a grudge,  he set aside rules like this,  you sin, you die, but,  a sacrifice can pay for your sins, = Jesus

Originally posted by Clowd
Kimhari

I know more about creation and evolution then you, from what I have heard from you.  Your replys have been the same:  we evolved that way.

The bible a fictional book?  Where has it been proved fictional?  Everything in it is true, and science cant prove otherwise.  There is only a little left that is not been fullfilled yet in Revalation

Ya ok, your right, from our encounter over the internet between two complete strangers I have also come to the conclusion that you are completly correct, you do know more than me:rolleyes:

And my replies have all been the same?  I suugest you learn how to read, I actually provided you with photographic evidence when all you provided was a bunch of "facts" that were practically your own opinion and not facts.

O ya, you remember elementary school, ya its and educational facility where you gained the base of our knowledge.  Get this:  In elementary they told us that stories such as Adam and Eve and Noah\'s arc were made up to help us understand creation!  Even the church supports that!

Originally posted by Clowd


Tom G I\'m listening to your evolution theories,  they just have no foundation.

Why does God not make everything perfect?  He did, but he gave some of his creation free will,  and with free will = free to do what you want.

Why does he hold a grudge against humanity?  This isnt a grudge,  he set aside rules like this,  you sin, you die, but,  a sacrifice can pay for your sins, = Jesus

I never made any theories. What were you reading?

All I wanted to know was why does something so powerful just let his creations run amuck(sp?)? He could just be like, twitching his nose or whatever, and then "bing", we\'re all saints, just like you Clowd! But instead of anything new, you answer with the same old "God works in mysterious ways" answer.

And Jesus isn\'t dead! He lives in South Park, Colorado. Last time I checked, he had his own tv show on Public Access...

And both you and PSXXX aren\'t gonna change the mind of the whole board. But I\'d be more inclined to listen to PSXXX, \'cuz at least he listens and doesn\'t consider people who don\'t agree with him to be idiots and whatnot.

And I could be wrong, but wasn\'t he messing with you?

[videoholic]

The bible is simply a book full of a bunch of stories written by a few dudes high on shrooms.  

What else can explain Moses parting the red sea or noah\'s arc.

Has anyone explained how he got the dinosaurs on the arc?


More proof that evolution exists!!!!



Carot anyone?

Wow, what a thread.  I wish I could get into it right now (before it gets any worse), but I have to go.  Be back tomorrow.