Whew, that was a close one.

Originally posted by Clowd


laughing out loud, the greatest mind of our time is ignorant?! laughing out loud laughing out loud,  where did your evolution theory come from?  darwin?  whats next?  steve irwin going to start a new theory?

You just made an ass of yourself yet again(surprise surprise)

ANYONE..I repeat NAYONE in the world can be ignorant no matter how intelligent they are.

Secondly, ASS..who said I was a evolutionist? Stop ASSUming things, you only look more retarded.

Originally posted by Clowd
1 vs 100, I\'m so use to this, I wont tire

what parts did i take literaly that i shouldnt have?  i watch too much x men?  im by far the most unintellgent creationist?

i will tell you all that you are by far the most unitellgent evolutionists.  all you seem to know is that we evolved.  and thats about it.  

Would you like us to describe the process to you?  I guess we just assumed you had beyond a 6th grade education, and thus knew already.  There is a reason that evolution is what is taught in schools.

we evolve overnight?  everything on earth is perfect.  thats why it NEVER evolves, if something to were evolve what would it be?

Everything is perfect?  Hardly.  You don\'t think that more intelligence would help wolves?  Or maybe more speed or a better sense of smell.  Everything can always be improved upon.  That is why evolution is constantly happening.

sam wise, evolution says two \'ape men\' or whatever started the human race, isnt that the same as adam and eve?  i think we all can agree we came from 1 man 1 woman, but wait, how did they become man and woman?  how did reproduction evolve into the incredible process it is today?  maybe after a billion years, you know it takes time

There were millions upon millions of these "ape men" as you called them.  It is in no way the same.  And stop trying to duck questions by answering them with questions of your own.

as for whoever said when everyone is against me just quit,  no im not a quitter, and until you can prove evolution more then creation, i wont quit, and so far you have failed

Yeah, but when no one agrees with you, maybe take that as a hint that your arguement isn\'t as obvious and sensical as you think it is.

samwise you say it cant be proved God exists,  I can tell you it can be proved gravity exists, even though you dont see it, you can see its affects,  just like how you can see how God created giraffes birds flowers, everything the way it is,  points to God, not evolution,  

Gravity is different.  We can directly see its effects.  You can drop an object, and watch it fall.  Can you do something, then watch God effect it?  No.  There is no God.  There\'s a reason that an ever increasing number of people are seeing this.  And nothing that you said seems to point to God to me.  Please, explain.

everyone is yet to explain to me how giraffes evolved its heart, kneck.  what causes evolving?

Once again, do we really have to explain simple 7th grade biology to you?

this is for who said gravity takes care of the galaxies,  laws require a lawmaker  

No they don\'t, they just require a reason for being there.  Natural laws are often common sense.  It\'s just the way things interact.

as for icomplete skeletons, they didnt find a fish with arms.  still no one can put this down

Actually, they have found similar skeletons.  Look it up.

i dont know why everyone calls my posts ignorant, maybe because they are too ignorant to realize the facts? [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Clowd


laughing out loud, the greatest mind of our time is ignorant?! laughing out loud laughing out loud,  where did your evolution theory come from?  darwin?  whats next?  steve irwin going to start a new theory?

All men are ignorant to some degree.  No man is all knowing.

Originally posted by Clowd


How am I making a fool of myself?  Im simply stating facts that reputable scientists (even ones who believe in evolution) agree with.  

So those scientists are fools?

I feel the momentum shifting

No, it isn\'t shifting.  You\'re just talking yourself into more of a corner.

Originally posted by Clowd
Mudskipper?  Where are going to find that?  Big foot .com?

ya either that, or just type it into yahoo.:rolleyes:

..I suppose you are going to find something in your all mighty bible that contradicts the pictures i posted.

Originally posted by Clowd


after reading that mumbo jumbo i have came to the inclusion that you are stuck on evolution, and are too immature to hold a reasonable debate with as you lable everything I say as foolish, even though i have use 100X more scientific data and facts then you

Yes, we "lable" you as foolish :rolleyes:  The only one here who can\'t hold a decent debate is you.  You are throwing in questionable opinions, and ignoring half of what we say.  Your arguement has more holes in it than anyone else\'s.  And you also can\'t get through a post without a spelling mistake.

EDIT:  Samwise, please stop trying to prove everything I say wrong, even though it is right, you make yourself look immature.

If he looks foolish, why is everyone laughing at you?

I said unseen things can be proved through the effect they have on the world.  Lets take for example a house.  If you saw a  perfectly built house where do you think it came from?  Even though you dont see a builder you know someone built it, it didnt just appear there.  It didnt simply evolve.  For example trees, did they evolve big trunks?  No God made them that way so they wont tip over.  Proof they there is an intellgent designer behind creation. [/B]

There is no common sense in that.  I look out at the world and I don\'t see God.  I see a beautiful miracle of nature.  Nothing more.  God is not common sense.  Even most creationists would agree with that.

Originally posted by Clowd


There is something to prove MORE OF.  What is written in the bible isnt meaningless,  Moses accuratly decribed the creation steps of the earth, and scientists agree with him.  How can he just guest the order?

People believed in creation since the beginning of time, your evolution is only 120 years old, and great minds like Albert Einstein have called Darwins theory absurd.  

Now you wont call Einstein ignorant now will you?  He believes in creation so is he ignorant?

The bible is meaningless.  There is no reason any of it should hold any credit.  Even if part of it is factual, that means nothing.  I could write a story about a talking dog in New York City.  If I accurately describe NYC, does that mean there is really a talking dog there?

Actually, Christianity has only been around for like 2000 years.  The world has been around for much longer than that.  And the reason Christianity has been around longer?  Because it\'s superstition, and nothing more.  Ignorant people often turn to superstition to explain what they can\'t understand.

And all men are ignorant, to some degree.  Einstein is no different.

Lol, I had planned a long response to all his nonsense. But then I figured it\'d just be a waste of time. Perhaps I\'ll do one if I get enough of his ramblings.

And Clowd, if I seemed immature in some of my earlier posts, it was just because I found you and your opinions (the socalled evidence) so laughable.

Originally posted by shockwaves


The bible is meaningless.  There is no reason any of it should hold any credit.  Even if part of it is factual, that means nothing.  I could write a story about a talking dog in New York City.  If I accurately describe NYC, does that mean there is really a talking dog there?

Actually, Christianity has only been around for like 2000 years.  The world has been around for much longer than that.  And the reason Christianity has been around longer?  Because it\'s superstition, and nothing more.  Ignorant people often turn to superstition to explain what they can\'t understand.

And all men are ignorant, to some degree.  Einstein is no different.

True.  Chritianity was also created so that we would have a reason to live and obey.

If you have ever read the book animal farm you will see a prime example of the authors opinion on the subject.  The subject of "heaven" is brought about to the animals so they have a reason to work, and obey the leaders.  The same goes for why we have chritianity today.  People want there to be something else after we die, me included, im just not ignorant enough to actually beleive it.

luckee ducky you funny, i assumed you were evolutionist?  You said albert einstein was ignorant for believing in creation,  hey, i can take a clue

shockwaves, will you ever quit proving nothing?  Put up some evidence that isnt a theory for crying out loud.  put in something like my left hand right hand theory

natural laws are common sense?  who made the law?  oh the law evolved

the increasing number of people seeing there is no God?  Because the world is getting worst, that is why, and they think there is no God because of it.  But make no mistake, God will intervene soon

why does no one agree with me?  because you have other reasons of not believing in god rather then just \'i dont see him\'

tell me, have you ever wondered what the meaning of life was?  why is it that only humans feel this? not the animals?

samwise your theory of messed up children from only 2 parents is just your own theory.  

everything IS perfect, a wolf doesnt need more intellegence :rolleyes:

shockwaves you are truly uneducated, i said people have believed in creation since the beginning of time, please dont try to deny this....

you see the beautiful nature?  why is it beautiful?  what makes you since beauty?  did you evolve that?  or did God design you to enjoy his creation?

Why is everyone laughing at me?  Because they thought I was going to make a fool of myself and I made a fool of them, so they just try laugh at me like, your the idiot, even though they prove nothing, know nothing,  they just say your an idiot, and have nothing to back it up, absolute NOTHING

im ignoring half of what you say?  im having a hard time replying to all your useless posts they try to deny fact

SAMWISE (sorry for the caps just to show the outrage) MY OPINIONS ARE LAUGHABLE?  WHATS YOUR OPINION?  BACTERIA CAME TO EARTH ON AN ASTEROID 2 BILLION YEARS AGO, SOME HOW RNA AND PROTEIN WERE FORMED, THEN FOUND EACH OTHER ON THE HUGE EARTH, AND MADE A LIVING CELL.  THATS NOT IT THOUGH, AFTER THAT THE CELL MAKES ITSELF THE AWESOME MACHINE IT IS TODAY, MULTIPLYS AND MAKES A FISH, HONESTLY

YOU - CANT - GET - ANY - FUNNIER - THEN - THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALBERT EINSTEIN SAID ITS UTTERLY ABSURD TO BELIEVE IN SUCH NONNNNNNNNNNNNNSEEEEEENSE!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Clowd
luckee ducky you funny, i assumed you were evolutionist?  You said albert einstein was ignorant for believing in creation,  hey, i can take a clue

shockwaves, will you ever quit proving nothing?  Put up some evidence that isnt a theory for crying out loud.  put in something like my left hand right hand theory

natural laws are common sense?  who made the law?  oh the law evolved

the increasing number of people seeing there is no God?  Because the world is getting worst, that is why, and they think there is no God because of it.  But make no mistake, God will intervene soon

why does no one agree with me?  because you have other reasons of not believing in god rather then just \'i dont see him\'

tell me, have you ever wondered what the meaning of life was?  why is it that only humans feel this? not the animals?

samwise your theory of messed up children from only 2 parents is just your own theory.  

everything IS perfect, a wolf doesnt need more intellegence :rolleyes:

shockwaves you are truly uneducated, i said people have believed in creation since the beginning of time, please dont try to deny this....

you see the beautiful nature?  why is it beautiful?  what makes you since beauty?  did you evolve that?  or did God design you to enjoy his creation?

Why is everyone laughing at me?  Because they thought I was going to make a fool of myself and I made a fool of them, so they just try laugh at me like, your the idiot, even though they prove nothing, know nothing,  they just say your an idiot, and have nothing to back it up, absolute NOTHING

im ignoring half of what you say?  im having a hard time replying to all your useless posts they try to deny fact

SAMWISE (sorry for the caps just to show the outrage) MY OPINIONS ARE LAUGHABLE?  WHATS YOUR OPINION?  BACTERIA CAME TO EARTH ON AN ASTEROID 2 BILLION YEARS AGO, SOME HOW RNA AND PROTEIN WERE FORMED, THEN FOUND EACH OTHER ON THE HUGE EARTH, AND MADE A LIVING CELL.  THATS NOT IT THOUGH, AFTER THAT THE CELL MAKES ITSELF THE AWESOME MACHINE IT IS TODAY, MULTIPLYS AND MAKES A FISH, HONESTLY

YOU - CANT - GET - ANY - FUNNIER - THEN - THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALBERT EINSTEIN SAID ITS UTTERLY ABSURD TO BELIEVE IN SUCH NONNNNNNNNNNNNNSEEEEEENSE!!!!!!!!!!

Man stfu already.  I mean keep posting cause its funny......but all your posts ramble on about the same nonsense.  We humans question our creator becuase we are the only creature with enough intelligence to do so.  A monkey or miquito is not smart enough to wonder how they got here, they act on pure instinct, we on the other hand do not.  We use reason(except you of course) and rely only on instinct when we are in danger.

Originally posted by Clowd
luckee ducky you funny, i assumed you were evolutionist?  You said albert einstein was ignorant for believing in creation,  hey, i can take a clue

Ahh..so not only are you ignorant and assinine, you are illiterate also, I didn\'t call him ignorant, I said anyone could be, including him.

Originally posted by Clowd
samwise your theory of messed up children from only 2 parents is just your own theory.  

:eek::eek::eek:

Ok, now I just lost ALL respect for you (not that you care). It\'s not a theory. It\'s a FACT - why do you think there are jokes about toothless children playing the banjo, when two cousins marry (or rather brother and sister)? Because they get inbred (and the defects will show in time. I\'m not joking here Einstein.

And about the asteroid theory - it\'s just that - A F*CKING THEORY! I didn\'t pass it on as evidence or proof... like someone else here *cough* Clowd *cough*.

Get over it already.

why do you think there are jokes about toothless children playing the banjo, when two cousins marry (or rather brother and sister)?

Banjos are cool. Bela Fleck plays the banjo. Bela Fleck rules.

I\'m betting he\'s not going to listen to you. He obviously is just a 12 year old who won\'t believe any of us because his parents said so.

... or maybe he\'s just an inbred himself?

Originally posted by Kimahri



Man stfu already.  I mean keep posting cause its funny......but all your posts ramble on about the same nonsense.  We humans question our creator becuase we are the only creature with enough intelligence to do so.  A monkey or miquito is not smart enough to wonder how they got here, they act on pure instinct, we on the other hand do not.  We use reason(except you of course) and rely only on instinct when we are in danger.

just because you have intellegence doesnt mean you have to question a creator

where did you get reason and instinct?  how does reason and instinct evolve?

this is where creation comes in.  God made us with reason and instinct.  That is a million times more believeable then it evolved that way.  If you dont think so, then your in intense denial

kimhri please stop calling my posts funny, and stop following the crowd in these discussions in calling my posts ignorant, every time you deny something as plain as day, as black and white as it is, your credibility sinks.  Well i guess it dont mattter everyone is with you in making a fool of themselves by trying to call my posts ignorant,  do i call your posts ignorant?  just because i dont agree with them does it make them ignorant?  you seem to think that way,  and its very immature

luckee you said the wisest of men can be ignorant.

im not a mind reader hear, but anyone will take the clue as i did, if you didnt mean it that way, then i took you the wrong way

Originally posted by Clowd
luckee ducky you funny, i assumed you were evolutionist?  You said albert einstein was ignorant for believing in creation,  hey, i can take a clue

shockwaves, will you ever quit proving nothing?  Put up some evidence that isnt a theory for crying out loud.  put in something like my left hand right hand theory

I\'ll post facts when you do.

natural laws are common sense?  who made the law?  oh the law evolved

No one made the laws.  Laws is just how we refer to them.  They are naturally there.  No one had to create them.  Things have just always been like that.

the increasing number of people seeing there is no God?  Because the world is getting worst, that is why, and they think there is no God because of it.  But make no mistake, God will intervene soon

No, the world is just getting more sensable.  Also, I strongly believe the world is getting better all the time.

why does no one agree with me?  because you have other reasons of not believing in god rather then just \'i dont see him\'

Why not address these issues then.

tell me, have you ever wondered what the meaning of life was?  why is it that only humans feel this? not the animals?

The meaning of life?  I don\'t know why people need to search for such a thing.  Why does it matter.  You are here for a limited amount of time, so you live to the fullest while you\'re here.  That\'s what life is.  I don\'t even know what you mean by only humans feeling this.

samwise your theory of messed up children from only 2 parents is just your own theory.  

And creationism is yours.  If you want us to disprove yours, then disprove ours.

everything IS perfect, a wolf doesnt need more intellegence :rolleyes:

Tell that to the ones that starve.  There are ones that starve.

shockwaves you are truly uneducated, i said people have believed in creation since the beginning of time, please dont try to deny this....

I\'m uneducated?  What have I said that was uneducated?  Hell, at least I can spell.  I never said people haven\'t alwasy believed in some form of creationism.  But how do you know that they have?  You can\'t possibly know what people believed millions of years ago.  Besides, even if they did, it was just a way to explain their ignorance away.

you see the beautiful nature?  why is it beautiful?  what makes you since beauty?  did you evolve that?  or did God design you to enjoy his creation?

It\'s a part of the human brain.  We just happen to have evolved to be that way.

Why is everyone laughing at me?  Because they thought I was going to make a fool of myself and I made a fool of them, so they just try laugh at me like, your the idiot, even though they prove nothing, know nothing,  they just say your an idiot, and have nothing to back it up, absolute NOTHING

im ignoring half of what you say?  im having a hard time replying to all your useless posts they try to deny fact

What facts have I tried to disprove?  Tell me.  If you want us to use facts, then you should too.  You haven\'t.  And we have used facts.  You just ignore the best ones (like the mudskipper).  Yes, everyone is laughing at you.  It\'s because you look like a fool

SAMWISE (sorry for the caps just to show the outrage) MY OPINIONS ARE LAUGHABLE?  WHATS YOUR OPINION?  BACTERIA CAME TO EARTH ON AN ASTEROID 2 BILLION YEARS AGO, SOME HOW RNA AND PROTEIN WERE FORMED, THEN FOUND EACH OTHER ON THE HUGE EARTH, AND MADE A LIVING CELL.  THATS NOT IT THOUGH, AFTER THAT THE CELL MAKES ITSELF THE AWESOME MACHINE IT IS TODAY, MULTIPLYS AND MAKES A FISH, HONESTLY

Yes, your opinions are laughable.  That\'s part of the reason for the lack of time spent researching facts for posts.  Your views are so ignorant and laughable, that everyone already sees what an idiot you really are.

YOU - CANT - GET - ANY - FUNNIER - THEN - THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALBERT EINSTEIN SAID ITS UTTERLY ABSURD TO BELIEVE IN SUCH NONNNNNNNNNNNNNSEEEEEENSE!!!!!!!!!!

Einstein was ignorant.  We\'ve been through this.

And a warning...stop insulting me on a personal level.  You won\'t like the results if you don\'t