Whew, that was a close one.

Until someone posts something that makes me say, wow, that is interesting, that could prove evolution, theres no reason to believe in it. - Clowd

[Sports anoucer\'s voice on] Things are getting hot in 4th quarter, with 40 seconds left in the game... this is the play which could make or break Clowd. He fakes left, but wait.. cornerd by SonyFan.. but he dodges yet AGAIN and makes a break for it.. Uh oh.. here comes shockwaves looking to check him into the wall. Bill, I think Shock here wants to put some serious hurt on our boy Clowd. He\'s getting pretty distracted now... he\'s all over the map.. and.. oh.. no... he tries to dodge yet AGAIN which costs him valuable time and unfortunately the game. Thanks for playing Clowd, you\'ve been a real pant-load.  Better luck next time. [/Sports anouncer\'s voice off]

Theres nothing to get through except a theory with no foundation. As of yet Bossieman is the only one who posted scientific data that is a FACT. - Clowd

No, what Bossieman posted was support of the "lefthand righthand" THEORY as it pertains to life orginiating from a hunk of asteroid from deep space. You simply take what you want out of what he said, ignore the rest, and claim that he supports you when in fact, he did no such thing. You\'ve jus gained 10 points in credibility here Clowd :rolleyes: Thanks for proving just exactly how much of a numbskull you are.. yet AGAIN.

Lets try, the universe. How was it created? By God or the big bang theory?  - Clowd

You use the fatigue excuse to dodge out of trying to explain why Creationism > than Evolution.. and yet you attempt to start up yet ANOTHER debate which has the potiential to become even bigger? Can you make it anymore painfully obvious that you don\'t know what you\'re talking about or should I help you paint a billboard?

Besides, everyone knows the universe was created in one giant orgasm while the Egyptian god Ra was porking his concubine.

How is the left hand right hand fact a theory?  Its fact man

EDIT:  What I mean from what Bossieman stated was his AIDS virus fact

Until someone posts something that makes me say, wow, that is interesting, that could prove evolution, theres no reason to believe in it.

Well that is a strange thing IMO, because I can´t prove to you that DNA exists, and you can´t prove to mee that the bibe exist.
What kind of proof are you looking for, I have tried to explain virus and bacteria, I have proven that they do actually evolve.
I could show you DNA from humans 300 000 years ago and show you that evolution has change the humans to be taller, less hair a.s.o
Our DNA is changing and evolving all the time.
If i could bring a person from lets say the 12:th centuary that person would get a allergic reaction and probably die if he ate a Big Mac and company.
If I went back to his time I would get some serious dissiesses and I would bring disseses to their time. That would be a catastrophy, but evolution slowly adaptes humans to new forms of virus.

The left hand/right hand fact is enough to make/break creation or evolution

Can you explain why this would brek evolution?

As of yet Bossieman is the only one who posted scientific data that is a FACT

I always try to do that, everything becomes much easier. You have my respect.

Lets try, the universe. How was it created? By God or the big bang theory?

Well, I belive that we don´t know that yet, but all evidence that is based on General relativity theory and Quantum physics shows that something like a bigbang happened.

But the question is very interesting.
I sure hope I will live that day that we get the answer.
Maybe I will be part of that....

The majority of the world always believe in a creator. But there is this small group who trys to bring up a new theory because they dont understand God.

Well we have to be glad that Johan Guttenberg, Issac Newton, Albert Einstein and others came up with revolutionary ideas.
Just because the majority belives in a creator doesn´t make them right.

Originally posted by Clowd


How am I insulting your people?  Do tell

Inever called you ignorant shockwaves

The so called \'christians who did the crusades and inquistions arent true christians,  frauds at best

The reason why the Jews became Gods people in the beginning was because of the covanent God made with Abraham.  I think it was 40 years after Jesus died when God left his protection of the Jews and Jeuresalem was destroyed.

Your still waiting for the Messiah?

Tell me how the crusades and inquisition...the actions of a group of christians, supported by the Church, are any different from the actions of a group of Jewish people?

And you are insulting Jews by saying that God does not favor them anymore, and putting Christians above them.  If anything, I think that the way Christians have treated Jews throughout history is only proof of who the righteous ones are.  The actions of Christians towards Jews are more like actions that would be guided by Satan, something you Christians believe in, than by God.  The Nazis were Christians.  The Crusades were Christians.  The examples like this are endless.

You called everyone that opposed your arguement ignorant.  You told me, infact, to "get a education".  I think it is obvious that you have called me ignorant.

So once again, fuck off.  I don\'t find your ignorance amusing any longer,

Originally posted by Samwise
You haven\'t even provided a single source to back you up. And then YOU talk about credibility? Stop pulling my leg man.

I quote myself again.

With all that overwhelming amount of facts and evidence you have posted (ehem), I\'m amazed to see absolutely NOTHING to back it up. Not even an URL to a pro-creation website. Nada. Zero. Null. Zip.

Originally posted by Bossieman

Can you explain why this would brek evolution?

It would prove that there is a creator involved.  Why does nature favor certain shapes?  The only argument is life came on an asteroid

Originally posted by Samwise
I quote myself again.

With all that overwhelming amount of facts and evidence you have posted (ehem), I\'m amazed to see absolutely NOTHING to back it up. Not even an URL to a pro-creation website. Nada. Zero. Null. Zip.

well bossieman backed up left hand right hand,  and the amino acids in primitive skys not being able to survive because of constant lightning,  cells not able to polymerize in a primitive ocean that favors depolymerization is pretty much true.

If you want a link go to some science website

Originally posted by Clowd
It would prove that there is a creator involved.  Why does nature favor certain shapes?  The only argument is life came on an asteroid

Just because it can\'t be explained by science right now (I don\'t know if it can, I\'m not a scientist), doesn\'t mean it has anything to do with supernatural powers.

Originally posted by Clowd
If you want a link go to some science website

Why the **** would we search for a website with that info on it.  You are the one debating this unwinnable topic, you provide us with these "links"........ they probably dont even exist.

Originally posted by Clowd
well bossieman backed up left hand right hand,  and the amino acids in primitive skys not being able to survive because of constant lightning,  cells not able to polymerize in a primitive ocean that favors depolymerization is pretty much true.

But what does that have to do with evolution? Evolution and the origin of life isn\'t the same thing. As I\'ve said earlier, it could be "God", aliens or something completely else that made life possible on earth.

And while you\'re at it Clowd, I\'d like some sort of response to my post.

Originally posted by shockwaves




And you are insulting Jews by saying that God does not favor them anymore, and putting Christians above them.

 If anything, I think that the way Christians have treated Jews throughout history is only proof of who the righteous ones are.
 

Arent Jews Christians?  I never put Christian above Jews.  And I said God doesnt seem them as SPECIAL anymore.

Who are these Christians that mistreated the Jews?  Nazis?

No Clowd, Sam didn\'t ask what other members words you can twist to fit your end, he asked what links and information YOU provided. I suppose you think god sent Bossieman to save your ass huh? He stated there are several theories surrounding why lefthand/righthand occurs. One of which bein a meteor (his favorite) and the other one being that some believe that pulsars kill righthand aminoacids. There are also others, which he hadn\'t mentioned.

He never supported you, only raised questions and informed of theories.

How can we expect you to interpret gods message from a book that\'s "true message" has eluded men for millenia when you can\'t even infer the correct meaning of a VERY clearly explained post on a videogame forum?

Originally posted by Clowd


Arent Jews Christians?  I never put Christian above Jews.  And I said God doesnt seem them as SPECIAL anymore.

Who are these Christians that mistreated the Jews?  Nazis?

Jews are not Christians.  Why would a group that doesn\'t believe in Christ be Christians.  However, Christians are sometimes considered Jews.  Not the other way around though.

I still take offense to what you say.

And ever heard of the Inquisition?  Who do you think was targetted in that?

By the way, Anyone else find it ironic that our boy Clowd here decided to spend Sunday morning here chatting with us heathens rather than go to church?

So much for "Remember the Sabbath". :rolleyes: