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Offline Bozco
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« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2002, 06:06:58 PM »
But mm thats not what they\'re saying.  What they are bringing up is that a black man is more likely to get a harsh penalty for the same crime that a white man has committed.

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« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2002, 06:09:02 PM »
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yer saying the US judicial system is racist and prosecutes based on ethnicity, no?

thats a well known fact that the HEAVY majority of crimes are committed by african americans, ESPECIALLY violent crimes


Yes it is a known fact that more minorities commit crimes. I was wondering where you got that percentage from.

What is so hard to understand? Yes..that is what Im saying. The US legal system will send a person to jail based on ethnicity..sexual preference and religion. I didn\'t say that that is ALWAYS the case.
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« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2002, 06:10:17 PM »
makes no difference

the black man is more likely to commit that crime (statistically speaking)

and no jail sentence is less harsh than another

a search on google got me this tidbit

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Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population.


ouch
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« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2002, 06:11:12 PM »
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Ok, first off, I was just babbling. Second off, freedom of certain things like press, property and shit like that is alright with me. You need to understand what taxes are used for. Many people want to do away with taxes. I say keep it. Why you say? You need to understand what the government does with your money. They use it for our military, restoration of certain things, fixing of roads, ect. Also, you say the government should have few roles. Ok, that\'s messed up. All the government should be there for is military purposes (defense)? Nah. Without the government, everything will be messed up. Warlords and gangs will run the streets, terrorism, homicide, zero rights. The country would be third world in a matter of months. Decisions would take forever to go through, everything will be in disarray.


how do you have freedom of property?  the government can take it at any time.  

As far as restoration of roads and what not... why can\'t these things be handled by states hiring private contractors?  
Most things can be put into private sector with higher quality at much less cost.  Its called compittion, the government has none.

As far as terrorism, you need to be doing a little more research as to why we have a terrorism problem.  I am no anarchist, I don\'t believe in no government, just much smaller government.  you have made some statements I don\'t think you can back up.  How would warlords and gangs take over?  The police aren\'t gone, or the military.  You don\'t get it, you lose rights every day.  Ask yourself why you are punished for damage you never do.  And what descisions?

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« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2002, 06:12:24 PM »
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how do you have freedom of property? the government can take it at any time.


yes, thats due process
its called eminent domain

im with pahn, the US has no govt anymore
we live in a policed state
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« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2002, 06:14:00 PM »
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makes no difference

the black man is more likely to commit that crime (statistically speaking)

and no jail sentence is less harsh than another

a search on google got me this tidbit



ouch


What makes no difference?

I wasnt disputing your fact..I already knew that. I was questioning your 70% number and where you got that number from.

Since I have to spell it out

a W-E-B-L-I-N-K would be nice.
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« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2002, 06:15:08 PM »
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yes, thats due process
its called eminent domain

im with pahn, the US has no govt anymore
we live in a policed state


Or when that land is really important..its called murder or accidental death :)
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« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2002, 06:17:52 PM »
Nice try mm...

why did you delete?
« Last Edit: August 17, 2002, 06:27:50 PM by luckee »
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« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2002, 06:18:02 PM »
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You don\'t want to pay any taxes yet you want the country to support you.  How about public schooling and police.  Who needs either of those, my money is my money. :rolleyes:


hmm... lets see, these things should be privatized.  The average public school student takes over $6000 to teach per year for the tax payer.... yet many good private schools cost around $1000 without subsidation.  these schools have no metal detectors... not security guards... good grade averages.  Why? becuase of compitition, the school knows people have a choice.  And police, people in each state and city should be responsable for finding the best private police force for their needs.  if you live within city limits you pay a small service fee for the safety that is provided.  

the point is... the services would still be there.  they would just be cheaper and better.  the government takes about %50 of all taxes just to support the beuracracy that porvides no service other than delegate money.


man do some research.  iv\'e done mine.

I just can\'t spell... eeerrg!
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« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2002, 06:19:28 PM »
yea..that and spending millions only to find out what they already knew..

A president who had his dick sucked by another besides his wife.
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« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2002, 06:21:19 PM »
and why shouldnt he?

hes the president of the most powerful union on the world

i say, he should get head every day if it could make him a better leader

and you dont think he was the 1st to have sexual favors in the white house do you?
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« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2002, 06:22:40 PM »
no..he was the first to get caught in a manner where he couldnt get out of it quietly.
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« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2002, 06:23:11 PM »
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Or when that land is really important..its called murder or accidental death


again, its called due process

ask the cherokee indans about this



but he\'s not the one that made a big deal out of it
the media did.   we did.

he was prepared to go on like any other day, and why not?
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« Reply #73 on: August 17, 2002, 06:24:51 PM »
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again, its called due process

ask the cherokee indans about this



but he\'s not the one that made a big deal out of it
the media did.   we did.

he was prepared to go on like any other day, and why not?


Maybe he should ask Darwin about it.  

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« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2002, 06:26:21 PM »
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again, its called due process

ask the cherokee indans about this



but he\'s not the one that made a big deal out of it
the media did.   we did.

he was prepared to go on like any other day, and why not?


Like I said..murder.......


I didnt say he did..was more a government bashing
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