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Blix \'hid smoking gun\' from Britain and US
« on: March 10, 2003, 05:47:42 AM »
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March 10, 2003

Blix \'hid smoking gun\' from Britain and US
From James Bone in New York

BRITAIN and the United States will today press the chief UN weapons inspector to admit that he has found a “smoking gun” in Iraq. Such an admission could persuade swing voters on the Security Council to back the March 17 ultimatum.
The British and US ambassadors plan to demand that Hans Blix reveals more details of a huge undeclared Iraqi unmanned aircraft, the discovery of which he failed to mention in his oral report to Security Council foreign ministers on Friday. Its existence was only disclosed in a declassified 173-page document circulated by the inspectors at the end of the meeting — an apparent attempt by Dr Blix to hide the revelation to avoid triggering a war.

The discovery of the drone, which has a wingspan of 7.45 metres, will make it much easier for waverers on the Security Council to accept US and British arguments that Iraq has failed to meet UN demands that it disarm.

“It’s incredible,” a senior diplomat from a swing voter on the council said. “This report is going to have a clearly defined impact on the people who are wavering. It’s a biggie.”

An explicit report by Dr Blix of the discovery of an Iraqi violation would help the six swing voters — Angola, Cameroon, Chile, Guinea, Mexico and Pakistan — to explain a change of position to their publics.

Unlike the outlawed Al-Samoud 2 missile, which was declared as a purportedly legal weapon, the drone was not declared. It would be the first undeclared weapons programme found by the UN and is considered by British and US officials to be a “smoking gun”.

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2003, 06:48:03 AM »
Got a link on this?
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2003, 06:51:59 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2003, 07:03:39 AM »
I wanted to see if there was anything else or related stories. Like the backround of the drone.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2003, 07:04:17 AM »
What does the drone do?
Is it a spy plane?
Can it carry weapons?
Is it a drone like the V1?
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2003, 08:10:56 AM »
yeah because a The discovery of the drone, which has a wingspan of 7.45 metres is clearly a reason to goto war :rolleyes:
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2003, 08:13:30 AM »
ooseven,

I have the feeling it would not matter what they found in Iraq, you would say it is not enough.

The point about this is Blix is a tool and there is a lot we don\'t know about what Saddam is hiding from the so called inspectors.

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2003, 08:17:43 AM »
Ooseven there are two reasons why this is important.

A) Undeclared equipment has been found.  Meaning there is a very strong chance of other equipment.  Including thousands of pounds of chemical and biological agents that apparently you like.

B) What else has Blix done to show bias in his presentations?  Is there anything else they have found that they aren\'t telling us?
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2003, 08:35:31 AM »
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ooseven,

I have the feeling it would not matter what they found in Iraq, you would say it is not enough.

The point about this is Blix is a tool and there is a lot we don\'t know about what Saddam is hiding from the so called inspectors.

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its not good enough.. because this is not about WoMD.. and Everything about Revenge.

Saddam is Our monster... we made him and kept him in a possition of power, and its only since 9/11 that we have decided that his time is up.

yes Saddam is evil.. yes he must be toppeld ... but to invade a country and cause wide spread Condemnation amung the Islamic World... is NOT the way to do it.

mark my words.. the very second we launch the attack is the very second were we lose the war on terror... as 1000\'s of terrorists will be born the replace and Tyrants killed in Iraq.

Result... Unstable Middle East ... more hatred for the West (UK & US)

and Vid...as for this evidence being good enough ?...

are you willing to have the potential for US or UK troops to be killed over a very small Spy plane and 100 missiles (< 80 now because they are bing dismantled)with a extra 20 mile range ?

i am sorry... its still not good enough !
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2003, 08:43:15 AM »
What is good enough for you?
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2003, 08:47:41 AM »
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its not good enough.. because this is not about WoMD.. and Everything about Revenge.

Saddam is Our monster... we made him and kept him in a possition of power, and its only since 9/11 that we have decided that his time is up.


That\'s right, do nothing to spite ourselves. Doesn\'t sound like a good plan to me and I am not willing to be bombed etc because of what you believe as our mistake.

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yes Saddam is evil.. yes he must be toppeld ... but to invade a country and cause wide spread Condemnation amung the Islamic World... is NOT the way to do it.


My contention is we are already in their sites. No need to worry about something that\'s already true!

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mark my words.. the very second we launch the attack is the very second were we lose the war on terror... as 1000\'s of terrorists will be born the replace and Tyrants killed in Iraq.

Result... Unstable Middle East ... more hatred for the West (UK & US)


I would say the Middle East is already unstable because of the likes of Saddam. Terrorists are being replaced now. No sense in doing nothing and taking in the chin again because of inaction.

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and Vid...as for this evidence being good enough ?...

are you willing to have the potential for US or UK troops to be killed over a very small Spy plane and 100 missiles (< 80 now because they are bing dismantled)with a extra 20 mile range ?

i am sorry... its still not good enough !


No, it\'s the larger weapons you seem to believe that he doesn\'t have in his arsenal.

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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2003, 08:49:12 AM »
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What is good enough for you?


oh how about the weapons inspectors obatining air/water/ or soil samples which indecate recent or heavy Weapons grade (plutonium/ Chemical agent/ Biological Agent), that prove without shadow of douht that there was a active and progressive weapons programme which has been gathering pace over the past 4 years (since 1998).

i am sorry but Flimsy Spy Plane and Missiles with go faster stripes do NOT = smoking Gun.

we need Concrete evidence.. Remember we are threateing to goto war...

the Stakes ARE Very High.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2003, 08:51:44 AM »
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the Stakes ARE Very High.


Yes the stakes are high and I am happy that we have leaders that, to this point, have the spines to do what no one else is willing to do to protect us.

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2003, 08:53:06 AM »
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Yes the stakes are high and I am happy that we have leaders that, to this point, have the spines to do what no one else is willing to do to protect us.

Ace


protect US ?

WTF

do you realy think Saddam is a threat to us ?

to his Neighbours YES...

But to US ... no....

please explain why you think this ?

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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2003, 08:53:46 AM »
9/11

OBL was in Afghanistan. But he touched us.
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