The Gay Discussion (Spudz, Core and Shox, make yourself at home)

There is no \'type\' of Christian Deadly, you obvious don\'t have a very good understanding of Christianity. Christianity is not a religion, its a faith. In believing that Jesus came to earth to save sinners and that he will one day return.

Not all Christians believe homosexuality to be a sin. There are certain things in the Bible that lead many people to believe God hates homosexuality, and I cannot speak for God himself, only for what I believe and the research that I have undertaken. It takes too long to explain, but I have found a pretty good website with some interesting facts. Have a read. I really like it because it goes back to the original Greek texts of the Bible.

http://members.aol.com/gunnyding/christ.htm

Anyway, think about it this way Deadly. I assume your straight (as am I) so I suggest you try and be gay for a day. See what I mean? Try as hard as you can to have sexual thoughts for a guy, about ramming your cock up his ass. Not working? Didn\'t think so. Its the same way for someone who is gay...

I agree with everything Bob just said, and i think Spudz officialy loses the argument now

Edit: Racer, no need to be graphic, thankyou.

If you read my eariler posts you\'d see I believe that people do not choose to be gay, so maybe your comments would best be directed towards others.

As Bob said, women happen to be much more experimental then males. In cases of curiousity, you can choose wether or wether to not take place in Homosexual acts. Many people who are Bisexual often have this choice a lot more then gays, because Bisexual people are usualy those who have feelings for both sexes. People who have feelings for one or the other, and not both, lack the choice Bisexual people can have.

Bob, I agree somewhat, but you need to remember that sex is also combined with reproduction. A man and a man cannot make a baby, only a man and a women, so, theoretically, men are \'designed\' to have sexual feelings for a women, in order to populate the world.

But sometimes things go wrong, thus creating gays.

I admit it- Bob has some mad arguing/debating skills.

I still have my feelings, and I still strongly believe in them, and although It may have seem like you won an unwinnable argument. I havent changed a bit. I still dislike homosexuals and their ways. I still think its wrong.

I dont see why you guys dont see that. Posting words, letters, and facts online cant change a persons mind. Hate me, befriend me, be neutral or whatever- but my thoughts are my thoughts. I have the God given right to believe what I wish, and to state it. I believe some of you are still going to bitch about me being anti-gay. But thats fine. Im still going to bitch about homosexuality. I know when to stop, and I will stop. Im sure this thread will live on for a while. I dont feel a bit embrassed, "ownd", or defeated. Rather the same before I stated my "narrow-minded" opinions.

I believe what I want. And will continue to state it. Weither considered a fool, or a person with a half- decent brain, to a prodigy, I will, want, and can post my opinions.

Im not accepting defeat, or any bullshit. Sure post all the 0wnage pictures you want, but It proves nothing. No one was beaten in this. To be beaten you must lose, I havent lost, and no one has won. We are all still believing, and I think no one has even changed their ideas, so dont start thinking you have proved your point.

BTW: Bob, have you thought of being a lawyer? Im sure you would make a good one.

Also I would like to mention for a decent thread. Without such a heated debate I wouldnt bother posting.

Anyway, Im babbling.

Spudz,

How can you have such strong feelings on something you don\'t understand?

How about the fact that it doesn\'t pertain to you?

How did you let a subject so unknown to yourself that you develope feelings of hatred?

What do you plan to accomplish with such a conviction against people you don\'t know?

I\'m being sincere.  I\'d honestly like to know how you developed these ideas you believe so strongly in that you won\'t listen to rationale conversation?

Not listen?

If you just read my post you can see I have listened/read.

My ideas say the same, its like asking you;

How can you have such strong feelings for men?


You cant explain it. I cant explain my feelings, its the way it works out. I dont care if your gay/bi, its I just dont like gay/bi people as a whole. Sure I know gay people, and I get along fine with them. But sexuality has nothing to do with friendship, its them.

Spudz, thats what you need to clarify. Hating gay people simply because they are gay is just stupid. Sure, you can disagree with what you think they are doing, but don\'t let it effect the way you treat them, otherwise your no better than a racist.

Spudz, how is what they are doing, affecting you personally?

*can\'t leave thread*

Lol @ Spudz.

At least we have had some good debates here, whether or not people will learn from it (*mentions no names*).

I wholeheartedly agree with most everything Rikku said. And Spudz, I don\'t dislike you even if I were to think you are a stubborn, misguided 15 year old.

I\'m still baffled about your "everyone being equal" statements though. Do you seriously believe everyone is born with the "same brain" and will be able to do the exact same things, if only educated the same way?

[Bobs_Hardware]

You cant explain it. I cant explain my feelings, its the way it works out.

I can explain your feelings.  You\'re scared of what you (so obviously) don\'t understand.  You\'re insecure and naive.  You\'ve been raised being taught that being gay is "wrong", thus you are against it, and the people who do it (as long as they are male).  It disgusts you.

One day you\'ll learn how petty all this really is, and you may learn to drop it.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Bob, I agree somewhat, but you need to remember that sex is also combined with reproduction. A man and a man cannot make a baby, only a man and a women, so, theoretically, men are \'designed\' to have sexual feelings for a women, in order to populate the world.

But sometimes things go wrong, thus creating gays.

Sex and reproduction are two different things.  You have to remember that humans weren\'t just given sex organs to procreate, but to have pleasure.  With that said, it could be argued that humans were designed to have sex with whatever floats ones boat, so to speak.

Maybe homosexuality killed the dinosaurs. It sounds like a mad statement to make but hear me out.

For some reason women will always get broody about kids, even lesbians. If the entire human race was to become homosexual we\'d still be able to forward the species using technology, ever seen a T-Rex trying to hold a test tube?

I\'ll quote Trainspotting.

"In the future there won\'t be men or women, just wankers"

A narrow minded view but funny!!

I think it\'s interesting that my name is in the subject of this thread, and I haven\'t even bothered to read it or post in it (until now).

Arguing with adolescent homophobes is not my idea of fun.  I predict that all the teenage homophobes who have never gotten to know a gay person as a coworker or a friend will reverse their opinions 180 degrees when they finally move to a big city and have some life experience.  Either that or they will go on a shooting rampage in a subway someday.  One way or the other...  

I can explain your feelings. You\'re scared of what you (so obviously) don\'t understand. You\'re insecure and naive. You\'ve been raised being taught that being gay is "wrong", thus you are against it, and the people who do it (as long as they are male). It disgusts you.

Bob, dont try. Youve already proven your point to them. Not me, its not helping a bit. You cant explain someone you dont even know, what the look like, their hobbies, their childhood. You cant explain it, your making assumptions. And no one even told me being gay was wrong- I made it upon my own choice.

and you may learn to drop it.

:rolleyes: I already have a while ago.

I dont have anymore energy for this thread.

Ok maybe a little.

Bob, I commend you for your maturity at your age. Your logical, witty, and smart, and think about things before you jump straight into a debate (Spudz take note).

I still however think that reproduction and sex are somewhat combined. I think the two go hand in hand. Reproduction is pleasurable so, in old times, people would have alot of babies because they were having alot of sex. Sex is not primarily for procreation, but its certainly a big part of it, the act goes together, thus, being gay, would theoretically be a \'flaw\' or design fault, not that theres anything wrong with that.