The Gay Discussion (Spudz, Core and Shox, make yourself at home)

See Rikku, thats where my environment kicked in. I was brought up to be attracted to females. And I am at a point of no return, chicks is where its at.

I mean, boobs, nice arse, big hips, beautiful smile.... Dang, I just couldn\'t live without it. Chicks rule.

Vapor Snake,

You haven\'t comprehended much of what\'s been going on.  I don\'t say that in a demeaning manor but you honestly have no clue.

What would you say in my environment influenced me so much as to "change" my sexual preference?  What is that you believe would be capable of doing such?

I actually was speaking from experience one of my friends was married and loved his wife and he meet a man that he became attracted to and eventualy left his wife for him.

Did you ever ask him why or how?

I\'m willing to bet he never accepted that he was gay, and just went through the motions of being straight.  It\'s not hard to find someone you\'re content with, but it\'s rather difficult to find someone you truly admire.

Like I said, I don\'t have all the answers and I\'m not prepared to explain human behavior, especially someone else\'s.

I do know myself though.

But why men? Is there some physical or psychological connection?

I think, people are born pre-destined to be gay or not gay when they hit puberty and horomones kick in.

But, People who are "Not gay" can also have homosexual feelings and such based on your surroundings. Such as (mentiond this earlier) Spartan boys were brought to train for war at early ages (before puberty) So when they got to their teen years, many of there close freindships developed into more. But, they all went on to marry women.

I don\'t think people choose to be gay or not gay, how often do you choose a way you feel? do you say "I want to feel sad now" or "I think now would be a good time to feel Happy". usualy, you cant just decide to feel a certain way.

Cyrus, you must be pretty dumb. Its pretty obvious that men were designed to be attracted to women, a penis goes into the vagina and before you can say "hey, there\'s a bun in the oven" the women is pregnent.

Homosexuality is a birth defect, its something that was not supposed to happen, but has, so you just have to make the most of it.

Where did you get the impression that it is a choice? Do you simply set it in your mind so that you think you understand it?

So your saying we are born smart? So why do we go to school?

I know someone who was gay, and changed, now probably one of the biggest pimps I know.

You can change what you like and what you dont- it just takes practice. Example: at first I didnt like reading, now sometimes I enjoy it. Things about your brain can change. You arent born wanting to be the president of the united states, or a carpenter. Its how you grow up.

Thanks for chiming in Rikku, it\'s always nice to hear from someone with experience. And your comment to Spudz was hillarious.  (no offense Spudz ).

Besides, Bob is making sense!  

I think I see blood falling from the skies.
 

None taken, sorry for double post.

Heh, Spudz got Owned. Gotta love that.

And how was I Ownd?

I think that he rather missunderstood me. If someone points out a specific idea in a topic, doesnt mean thats the only thing they understand. Anyway, I dont care. I still dont like gay people.

Spudz, you clearly should have left this conversation pages ago.

Some people have the natural ability to learn and comprehend at a higher level, some at a lower.  I can guess which one you might be under;)

What you like and what you don\'t fall under the preferernces and choices debate we\'ve had going.  

What about instinct?  Nobody here has bothered to challenge the fact that homosexuality occurs in other species.

Originally posted by Vapor Snake
But why men? Is there some physical or psychological connection?

If I or anyone else had that answer, this thread would have ended long ago.

As for me, it\'s at an emotional and physical stance.  I simply don\'t connect with women the same way I do with men.

I guess I\'ll never understand then.

*leaves thread, seriously. Well until someone posts something which brings me back*

Im the one that created this whole bullshit.

I have the right to not like homosexuals. You have the right to be gay. ##Racer## has the right to shower with boys Just kidding man. and I also have the right to post when, where, and how I want within context of the rules.

Most people are born with the same intelligence, and it branches off. If your child grows up playing video games, watching tv, and rotting their brain. Most likely they wont grow up to be a rocket scientist. However reading to your child, health food/nutrition, and interaction between the child and his/her parents can significantly increase brain capacity and the abilty to understand at a higher level.

People can change from being gay to not gay because they were wrong in the first place. Some people are just inbetween, so they have to figure out which side they are. And some people are just bisexual.  

Spudz, your freind didnt just wake up and say "Today, i am gay" then a week later wake up and say "Im not gay, infact, i have to attraction to males at all" thats not how things work.

I guess its like the meaning of life.

Whats the meaning of attraction? What attracts, for instance, a man to a women? Is it the way they look, the way they act, the way they talk, the way they smell? Considering all these things are hormone induced, I cannot help but think that homosexuality is based on hormones, whether its because of an inblance or not, im not sure, and then why do some gay men act feminine whilst others don\'t? A different hormone altogether?