For those that have seen the matrix reloaded (no spoilers)

Originally posted by Ryu


I don\'t care if you have gripes with the film.  You\'re definitely NOT the only one and you definitely won\'t be the last and that\'s for sure.  But you have gripes with it without even seeing it and that I can\'t see the logic in, which is why I made my comments.  Yes, you read the spoilers, but that doesn\'t make your opinion completely valid.  Maybe the way it\'s presented will make you love it, or maybe it won\'t -- the point is, take it for a test drive before spewing your opinion.  That\'s all I ask.

ok

but I’ll wait for a couple of weeks after launch or so to go and see it when the theatre is nice and quiet, that’s the best way to enjoy a movie.

p.s.

Did anyone who watched it stay for the trailer at the end ?

if not The Revelation trailer is now online and from the looks of things due for launch in Fall.

137 or so days to go

[GmanJoe]

Monica Belucci needs my philosophical probing.

Starred in Brotherhood of the Wolf and Matrix:Reloaded

was she the Italian house of ill rapute "worker" in Brotherhood of the Wolf. ?

[GmanJoe]

Yes indeed. She gave it up like the whore she played. I would have married her.

Originally posted by GmanJoe
Yes indeed. She gave it up like the whore she played. I would have married her.

Sold !

oh so thats were i saw her before, i knew she looked like someone i reconised when i watched the trailer fir the first time.

/me rushes out to book a ticket .

oh by the way see the two twins (Adrian Rayment  &  Neil Rayment ), well they used to be on a British DIY show called British better homes or something and was about building a futureistic & environmentaly sound home.

I saw the Matrix and thought it rocked. Im a huge matrix fan a an even bigger computer geek so when I watched the movie tons of things made sense to me so heres my take: [sp] In the Matrix he can change rules...he is part of a program or at least a interactive piece of a huge program. When he stopped those Sentinals when he left the "Matrix" he said he could feel them...... SO check this out...     A program is bunch of small scripts or services working together or against each other...queries, rules engines, logic, etc. It is logical to think that Neo would be able to "feel" the Agents arrive at that meeting in the beginning of the movie like he did.
However that was a different feeling or at least a different reaction and emotion on his face for that then when they left the "matrix" and were chased by the Sentinals. He was actally surprised he could feel them and said something is different. SOOOO IMO.....I think that they are not in another Matrix but actually part of a network now.  They are each nodes..   Like on a network, each node sends out Pings or broadcasts letting each other know where they are and who they are.  Programs don\'t let nodes know this stuff, programs just let other parts of the program know whats what.
 
So, Matrix .... huge program.
Out of the Matrix,  still virtual but each person is actually a node with a Address that broadcasts[/sp]

The DVD box...

[GmanJoe]

Kittens will die.

I took off that stupid "No Spoilers" portion of the thread title. If the thread is for those who HAVE seen it, then those who have not have no place being here if they are looking for impressions not containing spoilers. Just pointless.

Sorry ryu. My intentions were to not keep people away from it because i wanted to make the impression that spoilers werent just blurted out insted of concealed. Sorry about that.
Warning Spoiler Ahead! [Sp] It\'s confusing the way the oracle works actually. She is a program, and lets forget about WHY she "helps" neo, and ask HOW instead? Sure there is always something with probability but how can a progam create such accuracy and/or power? And another thing. Something that i was curious about is if the machines have formed a new conciousness of there own and when they took "control" of the humans wouldnt they be far more complex and thus able to keep them in their place? From this it is reasonable to expect a matrix within a matrix.

So say there is a matrix within a matrix. Morpheus in the first matrix said that he had seen the fields of people being consumed with his own eyes. So what you people are saying is that when morpheus and them free minds then they are actually just people in a matrix saving people in a matrix inside of a matrix? Seems odd but concevable.

When looking at the revelutions trailer it seems that agent smith still plays a very large role. Him, the oracle, the architect are all AI puppets, programs within a program blinded by the main program that blinds them? The architect said he made the matrix. Am i to assume that he is a sub program with a pretty fair amount of AI where he can react in different manners to a cycle of "the ones" but does not know that he is not the creator of the matrix? OR Is the architect AI created by a program where he doesnt know it so he belives that he created the matrix, when in reality he created the second?

And if the matrix allows free will within the matrix by the hosts, then if an apocalypse occured within the matrix then the machines would be left with dead bodies? How do they explain time? The matrix is suposedly supposed to create the perfect world to contain the humans but are the humans reacting to a world that never existed and the machines made it up out of thin air or is it a simulation of what was the real world? If so, what happens to the people in the matrix when the battle between the machines starts? Could this be the reason behind the matrix within the matrix? That each time life in the matrix goes through a full cycle that another matrix builds within its self? Like the replication of cells. The same thing keeps on happening but the cells dont die. Ok OK try to stay with me on this: The architech did build the matrix and since he did he is a universal program throughout each matrix (ie the network theory proposed by cyrus) and that a new matrix is created in a matrix within a matrix once history in the old matrix has completed. This is all based on the possibility that the matrix is the machine\'s attempt to create our world as it once was.

Man what a doozie. I hope that some of you got to the end of that cause i know its long and confusing but i want to hear your response. [/Sp]

heh I just thought of something else..... The Matrix Reloaded came out on the day of a lunar eclipse The Matrix Revolutions also comes out on a lunar eclipse and then theer is not another eclipes of this type for 40 years....

I went to see it last night, but the rest of the night\'s shows were over. They have it showing every 30 minutes.....But I still couldn\'t get my hands on a ticket. :eek:

So instead I saw Xmen 2. Nightcrawler and Mystique rock! :nerd:

Originally posted by SER
I went to see it last night, but the rest of the night\'s shows were over. They have it showing every 30 minutes.....But I still couldn\'t get my hands on a ticket. :eek:

So instead I saw Xmen 2. Nightcrawler and Mystique rock! :nerd:

Really? It was pretty damn easy here in Queens. All I did was the usual stuff.

I saw it on Thursday and I have to agree with Nicon and others that the plot does have you asking a lot of questions at the end.  Lawrence Fishburn even said in an interview last week there will be those who just don\'t get it (basically those who don\'t like the movie) and those that understand where they are going with it.  Not to say that even if you understand it you will necessarily like it, but I like a movie that makes you think and this one fulfilled that for me.

Not the best movie, but well worth the price of admission.

[Titan]

What I don\'t understand is what really goes on in the second. I understood that the French guy can modify the Matrix and add little things, I understand that the Oracle is a program and I understand Zion is under attack and I get that the programmer of the Matrix gives Neo a choice. But what does all that mean? They jump from one point to another. Maybe I need to see it again to understand it. But what was that thing about the choice of destroying Zion or the Matrix? Did Neo decide to save everyone still plugged into the Matrix in hopes of unplugging them and rebuilding Zion and destroying the machines? Is that what the other 5 "Ones" did?

Titan, use spoiler tags.