Enter The Matrix - What A Game!

Deep comparisons?Thats the surface.You can make comparisons with other movies as well,Darth Vader anyone(every movie should have a main bad guy)?Luke and Princess Leia(whatever)(almost every movie must have a main good guy and main good gal)?Joyda or Obi Wan(how many movies have a wise old man that predicts someones destiny: oracle)??What about the last Star wars of the first trilogy:the return of the jedi(the part with those anti cravity motorcycle-like vehicles??


Perhaps Star Wars is a rip off of Tron or the opposite?

The Matrix is the movie that sets one thinking, its got philosophy,, similitudes with ancient mythology, questions of everyday life, our consious and our existence etc.

It also brings back the thought of:God creates human. human betrays God, Human creates machine, machine betrays human and rules over humanity.

No its not just a movie with great effects that has a few similarities with a few other movies.

Plot isnt just the peripheral general looks of a movie.

If it wasnt for the deep plot thats when it could have been a somewhat rip off of Tron.

Perhaps u watch a movie just for its effects?

Perhaps Star Wars is a rip off of Tron or the opposite?

actually, since you mentioned it, star wars is a rip-off of a film called "hidden fortress" by akira kurosawa.  watch it, you might tear yerself away from what hollywood and MTV feed you for a few hours

how on earth can you put "matrix" and "deep plot" in the same sentence?

please do not speak to me about how i watch my cinema, it\'s disgusting

echo, yer gonna take the opinions of a large group of pre-teenagers that post thier favorite film on a web site?  please.....

Originally posted by mm

echo, yer gonna take the opinions of a large group of *edit*people*edit* that post thier favorite film on a web site?  please.....

Yes, I am. It\'s an average, both from idiots who rate films far too low, idiots who rate films far too high, and smart people who rate films as they should. An average of that = how good the film really is.
And The Matrix received 89887 votes. An average of that is very accurate.

It\'s a good site and it\'s accurate in almost all cases.

the matrix is an incredibly popular film for various reasons, cimema mastery is certainly not one of them

Originally posted by mm
the matrix is an incredibly popular film for various reasons, cimema mastery is certainly not one of them

Your opinion = Matrix is not cinema mastery
The majority of opinion = Matrix is cinema mastery

Conclusion:
You and those who think the same as you lose.


It\'s a simple fact: The general concensus is that The Matrix is a very good film, for many reasons. It\'s got amazing action sequences, cool effects, a good story and a deep meaning behind it. You may not see this, but most people do.

sigh....  it really is no use to argue good cinema with people who have little idea.  the majority of people who go to the 300 movie cineplex have NO idea that films existed before star wars and indiana jones

honestly, look at the Wachowski brothers past work.  Bound?  Assassins?  some impressive work there :rolleyes:

"the matrix has you"  is thier slogan.  should be "the matrix has your creative thought and expectations".    sad to see you fell for it

it saddens me that you guys probably have no idea who Fritz Lang was...or Werner Herzog...or Ingmar Bergman....or Toshiro Mifune...etc

seems like if DMX, or Jet Lee, or Keanu Reeves, or Vin Deisel, or Ben Affect isn\'t in it, people couldnt be bothered.  and god forbid a film contains subtitles! :eek:

Look what you guys did, got mm all worked up.

Originally posted by mm
sigh....  it really is no use to argue good cinema with people who have little idea.  the majority of people who go to the 300 movie cineplex have NO idea that films existed before star wars and indiana jones

honestly, look at the Wachowski brothers past work.  Bound?  Assassins?  some impressive work there :rolleyes:

"the matrix has you"  is thier slogan.  should be "the matrix has your creative thought and expectations".    sad to see you fell for it

it saddens me that you guys probably have no idea who Fritz Lang was...or Werner Herzog...or Ingmar Bergman....or Toshiro Mifune...etc

seems like if DMX, or Jet Lee, or Keanu Reeves, or Vin Deisel, or Ben Affect isn\'t in it, people couldnt be bothered.  and god forbid a film contains subtitles! :eek:

So you\'re saying you\'re one of few who sees The Matrix in its true light? The majority of people are too stupid to see that Matrix isn\'t that good? A bit high and mighty, don\'t you think? You\'re right, they\'re not....

I can\'t turn you, you can\'t turn me. We have different OPINIONS on this film, let\'s just leave it at that.

high and mighty?

nope, a film culture afficianado is what i am

again, i\'m sorry you can\'t recognize good cinema.  really, i am

Ok fellas. Having seen films like tron and the likes i can tell you truthfully that the matrix is definately not 100 % original and they even admit to having such influences. This is obvious. Its just like video games. One cannot create the most original piece of gold out of thin air. As all of us film folks know today there arent too many original films or ones that are exceptionally good. The Matrix, in MY OPINION, is a pretty good revival. Does it do the best job? Probably not, but the fact is that it has multiple original aspects and some people like it and some people dont. It is not a comlete rip off and its not the greatest film you will ever see, but opinions are opinions and thats the bottom line.

good enough for me

Hey now, Bound was pretty damn good

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Thank God someone else like\'s \'The Hidden Fortress\' around here also. Tho\', I prefer Seven Samurai.

The Bottom line is,is that no matter how much The Matrix rips off any genre or style of fighting etc it does it well.

I wouldn\'t complain if I was Andy or Larry cause the money is just rolling in.

I guess The Animatrix is gonna get slagged off for being a wannabe Final Fantasy:The Spirits Within is it?

I\'ve finished and swapped the game now anyway and I enjoyed it so the fact of the matter is,is everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I\'ve seen Assassins and Bound and I gotta say Gina Gershon was great in Bound,and stood out for me.

The Matrix doesn\'t have a huge deep and meaningful storyline but it makes you think and then it hits you with some action,which I enjoy.

DMX? Nope, stick to your music and Def Jam Vendetta.

Jet Lee? He\'s cool,but he\'s not exactly an all round great actor.

Keanu Reeves? He\'s a good actor but his voice is too quiet and before anybody says anything,I liked most of his work before The Matrix.

Vin Diesel? Great in Knockaround Guys,but still has an accent like he has testicles stuck in his throat.

Ben Affleck? Superb in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back,both as Holden McNeill AND as himself at the end. He\'s slowly getting better.

Anyway,no pun intended,but I\'m gonna stick by my guns and even if I do get slagged off,I gotta say that The Matrix is great filmmaking and Joel Silver has redeemed himself with this trilogy.

Anybody who wants to slag off the game,then go back to playing Max Payne if you don\'t like it.
I personally thought it was groundbreaking and took fighting and shooting to a new level.
The driving was just another driving game,and piloting the Logo was nothing special,but overall,even if you stripped it of all it\'s hype it would still be one of the best games this year.

Originally posted by Echo


Yes, I am. It\'s an average, both from idiots who rate films far too low, idiots who rate films far too high, and smart people who rate films as they should. An average of that = how good the film really is.
And The Matrix received 89887 votes. An average of that is very accurate.

It\'s a good site and it\'s accurate in almost all cases.

~:laughing:~


Could it be that most of them votes are from fans who vote more than once, online polls are not a clear indication of anything substantial.

in other words internet polls are as reliable as a United States Presidential election in Florida.